New Lawsuit targets Ford and Mach-E Safety over high voltage battery main contactor issue

[Mach1E]

Imagine those being bricked just out of warranty. How nice of ford right?

Yeah, it begs the question, is the HVJB covered under the 3 year or 8 year warranty?

If it’s the 3/36 warranty, many may have already hit the 36k miles and should be freaking out.

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[portlandg]

Yeah, it begs the question, is the HVJB covered under the 3 year or 8 year warranty?

If it’s the 3/36 warranty, many may have already hit the 36k miles and should be freaking out.

I thought that the battery/drivetrain and associated circuitry was covered by the 8/100000 warranty.

 

[jamelski]

.05 % failure rate ?. Of the 100k cars they have zero clue which cars will fail. Ford will not lose this case and is not going to recall the cars to replace the part. The software recall update lets you drive if it’s gonna fail. Statistically it makes no sense financially for them it’s not going to happen. This is a waste of time with this law suit. Example 10,000 miles of WOT driving everywhere in my GTPE and nothing. Will it happen maybe who knows and don’t care. It will get fixed if when it happens and if it happens after my warranty in 8 years 100k prob will have a newer car anyways that actually drives itself ?

 

[Mach1E]

.05 % failure rate ?. Of the 100k cars they have zero clue which cars will fail. Ford will not lose this case and is not going to recall the cars to replace the part. The software recall update lets you drive if it’s gonna fail. Statistically it makes no sense financially for them it’s not going to happen. This is a waste of time with this law suit. Example 10,000 miles of WOT driving everywhere in my GTPE and nothing. Will it happen maybe who knows and don’t care. It will get fixed if when it happens and if it happens after my warranty in 8 years 100k prob will have a newer car anyways that actually drives itself ?

You’re off by a factor of 10.

If you’re going to roll your eyes at math, at least get the math right. ?

And half a percent complete failure rate, when the average car has been on the road for less than a year……. is horrible!

Not necessarily lawsuit worthy, but definitely recall worthy.

If I was picking my lawsuit on this car, it would be on the 0-60 and HP claims on the GT. They are not what was advertised.

Only thing this lawsuit may do is force Ford to fix the problem instead of bandaid it.

 

[Duncs]

So is the part covered by the warranty or not?

 

[Biggus Dickus]

You will get very little out of it. Meanwhile, those three will take ~2/3 of any settlement, and the lawyer will get the other ~1/3. Class action is not the way to go, imho.

I disagree - the class reps won't get anywhere near 2/3rds of a settlement and neither will the lawyers get a third. This isn't a garden variety PI claim.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

Yup. This is money-grabbing from both the lawyers and the plaintiffs. Worst of our legal system on display.

Instead of bitching about lawyers and plaintiffs, Ford simply needs to replace the contacts instead of placing a digital brick under the accelerator pedal.

 

[ARK]

So is the part covered by the warranty or not?

Yes, lots of people have already had it replaced under warranty after a failure.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

Yes, lots of people have already had it replaced under warranty after a failure.

What is the cost of the part and how hard is it to replace?

 

[Zer0t]

What is the cost of the part and how hard is it to replace?

I believe the battery needs to be dropped. Someone here will know better.

 

[ARK]

What is the cost of the part and how hard is it to replace?

Someone had estimated around $2,000-ish, split about evenly between the cost of the part and labor.

EDIT: In terms of difficulty, I think it needs to be an EV certified dealer, which all Ford dealers are not.

 

[MustThee?]

Someone had estimated around $2,000-ish, split about evenly between the cost of the part and labor.

EDIT: In terms of difficulty, I think it needs to be an EV certified dealer, which all Ford dealers are not.

Well even those that are labeled EV certified have no clue. Had to add that.

 

[Duncs]

Yes, lots of people have already had it replaced under warranty after a failure.

But the warranty doesn't cover a faulty part that has not yet faulted?

 

[ARK]

But the warranty doesn't cover a faulty part that has not yet faulted?

Exactly. Ford has been 100% standing behind the warranty for people who have had this failure and replacing the part as needed.

The issue is that as part of the recall, Ford chose not to replace the part for everyone with a better part on a proactive basis, instead creating a software update that will (apparently) prevent failure and instead tell the owner to get the vehicle serviced soon. When the owner goes in for service, then they will get the new part under warranty. It's very likely that under this approach many, if not most people, would never get a new part. There is also the possibility/concern for a hidden performance impact as a result of this software update.

Many people are upset at this approach because they feel this potential part failure will be hanging over their head while they go about driving the Mach-E and don't want any performance limitation, if one has, in fact, been implemented (it is unknown). Instead of this software update fix, these people believe Ford should announce a recall where they proactively replace everyone's existing hardware with a more durable part.

 

[Mach1E]

Someone had estimated around $2,000-ish, split about evenly between the cost of the part and labor.

EDIT: In terms of difficulty, I think it needs to be an EV certified dealer, which all Ford dealers are not.

I would gladly pay $2k out of pocket to replace it………. If Ford also removed the 5 second limit at the same time.

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