Tesla Supercharger network now up to 66 locations with Magic Dock (4/17/24)

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The new Tesla station on Freeport road in Harmerville, Pa. Stopped at 67% soc and got 46kwh for the 8 minutes. On the way back stopped with 37% soc and got initial 112kWh which droppped to 90 when I left at 45% soc. 55cents per kWh. Both times Tesla owners came over to chat and look at the Mach E. Canned replies to them: yes I like it, over 300 miles range in summer, drove on Turnpike 30 miles hands free, doesnt charge as fast as your Tesla.
Ford Mustang Mach-E Tesla Supercharger network now up to 66 locations with Magic Dock (4/17/24) 20231123_113252
 

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Could not park head on snd have the cable easily reach the port
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The new Tesla station on Freeport road in Harmerville, Pa. Stopped at 67% soc and got 46kwh for the 8 minutes. On the way back stopped with 37% soc and got initial 112kWh which droppped to 90 when I left at 45% soc. 55cents per kWh. Both times Tesla owners came over to chat and look at the Mach E. Canned replies to them: yes I like it, over 300 miles range in summer, drove on Turnpike 30 miles hands free, doesnt charge as fast as your Tesla.
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So did you buy that adapter? If so which one?
 
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So did you buy that adapter? If so which one?
There is no adapter to buy. In the picture, you see Tesla's MAGIC DOCK, which is built into the charger and automatically attached.
 


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There is no adapter to buy. In the picture, you see Tesla's MAGIC DOCK, which is built into the charger and automatically attached.
One needs to use the Tesla app, fill in all the requested information and at the Supercharger, identify the charging station via the app and then click on the "release..." button. Then go to the Supercharger station, push upward/inward on the Magic Dock for it to release from the Supercharger station.
 
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One needs to use the Tesla app, fill in all the requested information and at the Supercharger, identify the charging station via the app and then click on the "release..." button. Then go to the Supercharger station, push upward/inward on the Magic Dock for it to release from the Supercharger station.
All of which the Tesla app tells you, step by step.
 

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Can someone please explain to me how much does it cost for tesla owners to charge at superchargers per kwh? I am not sure if I am reading it correctly, but it appears that where I am, in Canada, the per kwh cost is $0.82 at superchargers. I find that kind of steep.
So I would like to know how much do Tesla owners pay to charge at superchargers? Is it more than non-tesla owners?
 

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That is US .60/kWh so, yes, it is expensive. 0_o
 
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Can someone please explain to me how much does it cost for tesla owners to charge at superchargers per kwh? I am not sure if I am reading it correctly, but it appears that where I am, in Canada, the per kwh cost is $0.82 at superchargers. I find that kind of steep.
So I would like to know how much do Tesla owners pay to charge at superchargers? Is it more than non-tesla owners?
Tesla owners don't pay MORE than non-Tesla owners, they pay the same or less.

Tesla has no set rates, they have per location rates that can vary depending on time of day, demand, etc. This is the model that most companies are adopting (like EA) going forward.

It remains to be seen if Ford has negotiated a discount for charging at Tesla chargers for the Spring 2024 rollout of 15,000 SuperChargers.
 

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Yes, the agreement calls for 3,500 Superchargers with CCS capability by end of 2024. This is separate from the Ford/GM/etc. deals.
When we refer to CCS capability, we mean that the stations have the Magic Dock? What makes all this possible is that Tesla switched to CCS protocols for charging sometime around three years ago, despite continuing to use the Tesla charging handle.

The Tesla handle, we have to admit, is rather elegant in comparison.

How are Tesla superchargers able to use such light, thin cables? And without copper? Are the cables going to have to get thicker and/or have liquid cooling if they are longer?

Magic Dock users without the Tesla $12.99 monthly plan spemd 49 cents per kWh.
Is the price per kWh worth the 12.99/month?
 
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When we refer to CCS capability, we mean that the stations have the Magic Dock? What makes all this possible is that Tesla switched to CCS protocols for charging sometime around three years ago, despite continuing to use the Tesla charging handle.

The Tesla handle, we have to admit, is rather elegant in comparison.

How are Tesla superchargers able to use such light, thin cables? And without copper? Are the cables going to have to get thicker and/or have liquid cooling if they are longer?


Is the price per kWh worth the 12.99/month?
None of us know what Tesla and the government's agreement said beyond opening up 3,500 SuperChargers by end of 2024, and doubling the SuperCharger network in the US. Is it all by Magic Docks? Don't know, but the rollout continues.

As to breakeven on the $12.99 a month, you'd have to do the math for YOUR use case, at the chargers YOU are going to use, to see if the discount is worth it.

In comparison, EA's $7 per month Pass+ gets you a 25% discount, and if the rate goes from 48 cents to 36 cents, the breakeven is 58.3kWh.
 

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That is US .60/kWh so, yes, it is expensive. 0_o
It's like $6 per a gallon of gas for a compatible ICE crossover. Makes even more sense to use one for trips, unfortunately ?
 

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Does anybody know what the discount is if one signs up for the monthly plan with Tesla? EA tells you it will be about 25% cheaper. I don't see any specific discount figures regarding the tesla supercharging monthly plan.
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