MY21 Blue Cruise Fix Not Covered Under Warranty

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That message is indicative of them not being turned on. But I guess you have other issues.
The connected services comes and goes similar to past bugs. Today 1 hour on an interstate where I have used hands free before only had adaptive cruise. All toggles are on except the Ford Insure toggle.
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The amount of money one thinks they save by not going $0 deductible is spent on the first 2 trips to the dealer. Spend the hundred or two hundred so there isn't a deductible and take it in as many times as you'd like.
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Thats what I paid when my car was at 26k.



Why wouldn't it. Yeah it's going to probably require a LOT of calls and social media call outs but Ford knows there was a OTA that did this. And they know they bricked a few (no one knows how many I'm sure) cars in the process. And until those cars start bitching about the unrepairable thing needed for this product to work they won't place any kind of priority on it. It's going to take more than 2 or 3 reports of this to gain any traction. If no one complains how would Ford ever know that these contestants actually want to use BC and didn't just stop using it after the OTA.

Before anyone pipes up about the car sending data back with errors etc, I can almost promise you theres maybe 1 or 2 lucky individuals (who are frantically looking for another job) responsible for glancing over this uploaded data. Until Ford starts devoting people to the software side of this no fix comes in a timely manner. Just look at all the charging issues we've sustained for over a year.

Take to X or Facebook, that's where non-owners are. Ford can't give two shits about owners which is kinda obvious, they already got your money, on all accounts.
I spent about hour on phone with Extended Care team and Customer Care BEV team. it was no progress, but I think Ford media team is quietly doing better job than we think. I just picked up my pony from dealer after 40,000 miles service and service advisor told me to expect call from him in about 25-30 days with information about reimbursement: "Angent from @Ford Motor Company contacted my dealer, reviewed my case and confirmed that Ford would reimburse dealer for my TSB"
 
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To be fair, it would be more like if your TV broke outside of warranty and you couldn’t watch Netflix.

But I understand the frustration.

The same thing would happen if your cameras on your car broke outside of warranty. You wouldn’t be able to use BC until you pay to fix it.

In the end, SOMEONE has to pay the repair shop to fix your car. And if you don’t have an extended warranty, that someone is you.

It sucks, it’s frustrating, but that’s how it works.
This is absolutely wrong. If you'd said that NFLX broke my TV and then left me to pay for it, you'd be correct. The issue is not a component. It's software code sent by Ford that bricked my Bluecruise.
 

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This is absolutely wrong. If you'd said that NFLX broke my TV and then left me to pay for it, you'd be correct. The issue is not a component. It's software code sent by Ford that bricked my Bluecruise.
Sure, but in the example you gave I would expect Netflix to send another update to fix the faulty one.

Bad software updates unfortunately are a matter of life. It’s why everything from our computers to TVs to cell phones to cars constantly get updates and patches to fix the bugs.

But Netflix isn’t going to pay for a TV repair shop to fix the bug. They’ll just send a future update. That’s what Ford does too.
 
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Sure, but in the example you gave I would expect Netflix to send another update to fix the faulty one.

Bad software updates unfortunately are a matter of life. It’s why everything from our computers to TVs to cell phones to cars constantly get updates and patches to fix the bugs.

But Netflix isn’t going to pay for a TV repair shop to fix the bug. They’ll just send a future update. That’s what Ford does too.
You keep missing the point and it seems intentional. The fix was a TSB which required a visit to the dealer. There is no OTA fix nor any reimbursement for the lost subscription time I've paid for. You are repeatedly the sole person on this forum arguing a clearly indefensible position on the part of Ford. Do you work for the company?
 


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I would expect LG to fix it as well…… by pushing another update to fix it.

But I wouldn’t expect them to pay a TV repair shop to fix it sooner.
seems reasonable to me. But timing matters. if the next OTA that fixes it is a few weeks... ok. If it is 18 months from now... no.
 
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seems reasonable to me. But timing matters. if the next OTA that fixes it is a few weeks... ok. If it is 18 months from now... no.
The member Mach1E has posted over 8,000 times since just March 5th - that's over 1,000 posts/week. I thought it was suspicious when they (and I think it's a they plural) kept defending Ford against this issue with straw man arguments. It turns out almost all Mach1E posts defend Ford against user complaints on this forum, or raise questions about competing EVs. Seems likely Mach1E isn't disclosing to the rest of us the true affiliation of their account. Is there a process for reporting this to the site admin?
 

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Wow.
You came to the internet to vent? Or for help?
If it was to vent, mission accomplished.
If for help with an OTA/TSB you're out of luck.
The collective here has tried to explain, and understand both you and Ford's position. I believe there's nothing else at this point that this forum can do to resolve your problem. I'm sorry you're out of warranty, but it's not our fault.
 

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You keep missing the point and it seems intentional. The fix was a TSB which required a visit to the dealer. There is no OTA fix nor any reimbursement for the lost subscription time I've paid for. You are repeatedly the sole person on this forum arguing a clearly indefensible position on the part of Ford. Do you work for the company?
You have stated yourself that the TSB doesn’t apply to your model year.

You have also stated that TSBs aren’t covered outside of warranty.

I do think it’s hilarious whenever someone states that a Ford policy is a Ford policy people use the “you must work for Ford” as a supposed insult.

No. I don’t, never have. I was in a former career a store manager that had to work directly with customers for warranty claims and outside of warranty repairs (for appliances and electronics), so I do have that insight on how things work.

You say “clearly indefensible.” However, it’s just straight up policy.

And it’s no different at any other manufacturer either if you need a repair at a dealership outside of warranty. It’s industry standard that you will be responsible to pay that bill.

It’s also completely understandable that you won’t be happy about it. I wouldn’t either. But like I stated before, you can wait for an OTA, quit using BC, or pay out of pocket for a fix now. You also can ask Ford for an exception to have them pay for it, but we know you already tried that.
 

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The member Mach1E has posted over 8,000 times since just March 5th - that's over 1,000 posts/week. I thought it was suspicious when they (and I think it's a they plural) kept defending Ford against this issue with straw man arguments. It turns out almost all Mach1E posts defend Ford against user complaints on this forum, or raise questions about competing EVs. Seems likely Mach1E isn't disclosing to the rest of us the true affiliation of their account. Is there a process for reporting this to the site admin?
lol I have 8,000 posts since……. 2021.

1,000 posts a week? That’s hilarious as well.

Feel free to dig deeper into my posts though. I have plenty of complaints about Ford as well.
 

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I'd file a complaint with the appropriate government org, probably the FTC. Companies can't cause bugs then tell you to pay to fix them. It's like when Apple was secretly neutering the iPhone battery so people would buy new phones.
 
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lol I have 8,000 posts since……. 2021.

1,000 posts a week? That’s hilarious as well.

Feel free to dig deeper into my posts though. I have plenty of complaints about Ford as well.
Correction, you have 25 pages worth of posts since March 3rd, 90%+ of which defend Ford policies or raise questions about competing vehicles. Not exactly an average user of this board, and it's important that the 90% of the people who agree with my grievance and are wanting Ford to do something about it, see your minority opinion on this topic in context. Thanks.
 
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You have stated yourself that the TSB doesn’t apply to your model year.
Correcting a misstatement of facts. The TSB was written by Ford for MY22/23 but the dealer explicitly used the procedure in the TSB to fix my MY21, which is one of many MY21s experiencing the identical problem.
 

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Correction, you have 25 pages worth of posts since March 3rd, 90%+ of which defend Ford policies or raise questions about competing vehicles. Not exactly an average user of this board, and it's important that the 90% of the people who agree with my grievance and are wanting Ford to do something about it, see your minority opinion on this topic in context. Thanks.
Yeah, I can see how understanding a strict warranty policy would be unpopular.

It wasn’t popular either when I was the manager having to explain to people why their 2 year old refrigerator broke and they’d have to pay to fix it because the manufacturer warranty only covered 1 year and they didn’t buy the extended warranty.

Unfortunately it’s the same situation here. Unpopular as it may be.
 

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Yeah, I can see how understanding a strict warranty policy would be unpopular.

It wasn’t popular either when I was the manager having to explain to people why their 2 year old refrigerator broke and they’d have to pay to fix it because the manufacturer warranty only covered 1 year and they didn’t buy the extended warranty.

Unfortunately it’s the same situation here. Unpopular as it may be.
The refrigerator didn't break because the manufacturer pushed a buggy OTA.
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