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I did not see that on my car. I installed the Hankooks at 45,000 miles and I consistently saw around 19% battery usage for 46 mile at >75 degrees commute. That is slightly less(18%) for primacy. The OEM totally sucked for wet traction. I just replaced the Hankook with the Michelin Pilot A/S and they are in my opinion way better than both the OEM and Hankooks. I am seeing the same battery usage at same temp range during commute and way better ride
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No everyone is as detail oriented as others. To me, the diamond pattern design they added to the sidewall just looks dumb. I'd prefer something that looks sportier both in sidewall and tread pattern. When it comes time for me to replace mine, I've been looking at the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus Elect ...problem is they don't have the size I want.

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For what it’s worth, my brother has those Pirelli P Zero tires and while they’re pretty, they also blow at the drop of a hat. Would never put them on another EV after experiencing multiple blowouts with him.

But they do look sporty and pretty, I’ll give you that!
 

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I’m at 49,000 so I’ll definitely need to get a set before winter. Nice post.

The only reason I’m holding off is in case I pull the trigger on a Lyriq in the next few weeks. Like the MMe, it‘s heavily discounted right now.
 

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Seriously considering a set of these when autumn hits, before I put on the winter tires and wheels. Thanks for the review!

Anybody know if the odometer in the MME is old school and goes by tire rotations to compute miles, vs. pulling distance data from GPS? My guess is it's the former.

If that's the case, I'd expect a hit on computed efficiency with any new tires vs. old just by virtue of the new tire having a slightly larger diameter.

So if rounding-error numbers are what you're seeing for an efficiency hit that's even more impressive I'd think.

Again, thanks for the review!
 

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Same story for me. I had 49,000 miles on the Michelins and could have gotten a bit more out of them (4/32nds), but it was October heading into winter and we road trip a lot across the mountains, so I replaced them with the Hankooks. Really couldn't notice any difference. Seemed maybe a tad quieter, but hard to tell. Both are sufficiently quiet though.

I had the same thought as the OP, that if they seem as good with deep tread, they'll probably end up being a bit better than the Michelins as the tread depth shrinks.
 


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Not OP, but new tires generally cause a hit to efficiency because they are stickier, stiffer, and have more rolling resistance. So, if the new Hankooks were roughly as efficient as the worn Michelins, worn Hankooks should be more efficient.

OP, I hope you will update this thread with wear information. Nearly 50K miles on an EV is excellent longevity. According to the EV bashing articles out there, you have to replace the tires every 10,000 miles!
I have a 22 Mach e, have had to replace the tires twice now. At 32,000 miles and again it's 62,000 miles. Michelin gave me a discount both times to buy a new set the second time I got cross climate II tires. For starters they have double the amount of tread just about from the beginning. The original Primacy tires start with 5/32 the cross climate to has I think 10/32. Currently have 68,000 MI. Tires look great perform great noise is minimal. They definitely absorb bumps on the road much better than even the brand new tires.
 

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Seriously considering a set of these when autumn hits, before I put on the winter tires and wheels. Thanks for the review!

Anybody know if the odometer in the MME is old school and goes by tire rotations to compute miles, vs. pulling distance data from GPS? My guess is it's the former.

If that's the case, I'd expect a hit on computed efficiency with any new tires vs. old just by virtue of the new tire having a slightly larger diameter.

So if rounding-error numbers are what you're seeing for an efficiency hit that's even more impressive I'd think.

Again, thanks for the review!
That's an interesting thought. But still pretty insignificant. The difference between full tread (~10/32") and replacement tread (~2/32") is 1/4". These tires are roughly 28" tall, thus 14" radius. 1/4" difference in the radius shrinks the circumference by 1.8%. The same # of rotations on the old tires will actually be going 1.8% shorter distance, which should appear to be 1.8% better efficiency and range than the new tires.

But 1.8% is barely a rounding error on the MPK reading. 2.8 MPK becomes 2.75. 270 miles range becomes 265. Eh.
 

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What is your PSI, when you air up your tires?
 

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The original Primacy tires start with 5/32
That doesn't sound right. Our 2023 Bronco Sport came with Michelin Primacy A/S too. I just went out and measured them. At just over 9000 miles, they have 9/32. They should start at 10-11/32 when new.
 

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Not OP, but new tires generally cause a hit to efficiency because they are stickier, stiffer, and have more rolling resistance. So, if the new Hankooks were roughly as efficient as the worn Michelins, worn Hankooks should be more efficient.

OP, I hope you will update this thread with wear information. Nearly 50K miles on an EV is excellent longevity. According to the EV bashing articles out there, you have to replace the tires every 10,000 miles!
I fail to see how you can make an accurate comparison of the tires. The testing criteria seems acceptable but you are comparing old vs new tires. I think a more accurate comparison would be New Michs vs New Cooks or Old Michs vs Old Cooks. Any new tire should ride better and have less road noise than any used set with decent mileage on them, if not probably shouldn't buy them.
 

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No everyone is as detail oriented as others. To me, the diamond pattern design they added to the sidewall just looks dumb. I'd prefer something that looks sportier both in sidewall and tread pattern. When it comes time for me to replace mine, I've been looking at the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus Elect ...problem is they don't have the size I want.

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Agreed, that's a funky sidewall pattern
 

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That doesn't sound right. Our 2023 Bronco Sport came with Michelin Primacy A/S too. I just went out and measured them. At just over 9000 miles, they have 9/32. They should start at 10-11/32 when new.
The primary in a 225/55/19 EV tire come with 8.5/32 new

Ford Mustang Mach-E Hankook iON evo AS tire is impressive (a before and after test by owner) Screenshot_2024-05-03-16-25-21-88_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12
 

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They actually changed EV tires at WalMart? Not sure I'd trust my local one to do that.
 

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I fail to see how you can make an accurate comparison of the tires. The testing criteria seems acceptable but you are comparing old vs new tires. I think a more accurate comparison would be New Michs vs New Cooks or Old Michs vs Old Cooks. Any new tire should ride better and have less road noise than any used set with decent mileage on them, if not probably shouldn't buy them.
That’s why OP started his post saying this wasn’t a scientific test, just his observations. If you want a true apples to apples comparison you will need to look at a Tire Rack or maybe Consumer Reports kind of review. Us mere mortals can’t easily test multiple sets of new tires on our personal cars.
 

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I put 255s on my GT and I think the sidwall looks pretty good. The tread is typical all season, and I would prefer a more aggressive tread as well.

I created my own thread on this tire, and I am in the process of measuring the efficiency of multiple highway drives with OBD data to measure exact efficiency differences. The mi/kWh reading in the car is not accurate enough, and is definitely off when I put taller tires on the car. I am checking actual battery capacity used before and after the tires.

I should have the final data readings next week. So far, it appears the Ions are more efficient than the stock GT tires. But that conclusion is premature at this point.
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