A child was trapped in Model Y when its LVB died. Does Mach E face the same risk?

[Sikkun]

If that's the case, the owner probably didn't pay any attention to the warning or the owner noticed the warning but didn't think that it was something major. I don't know what the answer is.

On the actual report Verge is just paraphrasing.

“Tesla drivers are supposed to receive three warnings before that happens, but the Tesla service department confirmed that Sanchez didn’t receive any warnings.”

Which isn’t too surprising, if you could 100% accurately tell someone a 12v is having issues we would have less people getting towed around here from their 12v dying.

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[AhardFSU]

On the actual report Verge is just paraphrasing.

“Tesla drivers are supposed to receive three warnings before that happens, but the Tesla service department confirmed that Sanchez didn’t receive any warnings.”

Which isn’t too surprising, if you could 100% accurately tell someone a 12v is having issues we would have less people getting towed around here from their 12v dying.

Ahhh.....ok that would make sense.

 

[milepost1]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/21/24183439/tesla-model-y-arizona-toddler-trapped-rescued

I use the Mach E as a daily driver including dropping my kids off at school. And this news concerned me. Does Mach E face the same issue? What do y’all carry with you for emergencies?

Use child locks and CANT open from inside. Been "trapped" inside due to child locks. That scares me more than door unable to open from outside. Seems rare to open door, put child in car seat, close door, then battery to dead to open any door. At least outside can call fire dept or find a rock to break window.

 

[djwildstar]

I use the Mach E as a daily driver including dropping my kids off at school. And this news concerned me. Does Mach E face the same issue? What do y’all carry with you for emergencies?

The Mach-E is designed with a manual backup so that you can always get out of the car using the door release levers. There is no hidden backup lever to find -- if electrical power is out for any reason and you are inside the Mach-E, pull the door release lever all the way back, and it will mechanically unlock and open the door.

In the (extremely rare) situation like the article describes -- where the 12V battery has enough power to open the door once, but not enough to open it again -- the ideal solution is to use the jump power points to supply power from another vehicle or from one of the small jump boxes that are ubiquitous these days.

Source: Ford -- How Do I Use Ford Mustang Mach-E eLatch Doors?

 

[ChehRob]

Carry one of those battery boosters. I do, and realize I can only use it to help other people. If many of us carry one we all can give each other a 'charge' when needed. I've had one for years, and even used it a few times, but never for myself.

 

[Rabidsquirrel22]

The Mach-E is designed with a manual backup so that you can always get out of the car using the door release levers. There is no hidden backup lever to find -- if electrical power is out for any reason and you are inside the Mach-E, pull the door release lever all the way back, and it will mechanically unlock and open the door.

In the (extremely rare) situation like the article describes -- where the 12V battery has enough power to open the door once, but not enough to open it again -- the ideal solution is to use the jump power points to supply power from another vehicle or from one of the small jump boxes that are ubiquitous these days.

Source: Ford -- How Do I Use Ford Mustang Mach-E eLatch Doors?

Teslas have essentially the same mechanical backup mechanism to open the doors as the Mach-E, but this story involved a very young child buckled into a car seat who wasn't able to get out of it and operate the latch.

 

[Timelessblur]

The answer to your question is god yes the Mach E has the exact same issue. It is a design flaw that sadly I think needs to be fixed on all cars. In the case of a power failure you should be able to get into the car with in 30sec with a key.

I had my 12v fail on me with zero warning. I turned the car off and everything went dead instantly. Did not think much off at the time until I walked back to my car 5 mins later and could not open it. 12v was dead. I was glad my kid was not in my car as often times I do shut my car door while I walk over to her side to get her out. NO power no way to get into the car.

It is a design flaw that both Tesla and Ford (along with others) need to solve.

 

[Mach1E]

The answer to your question is god yes the Mach E has the exact same issue. It is a design flaw that sadly I think needs to be fixed on all cars. In the case of a power failure you should be able to get into the car with in 30sec with a key.

I had my 12v fail on me with zero warning. I turned the car off and everything went dead instantly. Did not think much off at the time until I walked back to my car 5 mins later and could not open it. 12v was dead. I was glad my kid was not in my car as often times I do shut my car door while I walk over to her side to get her out. NO power no way to get into the car.

It is a design flaw that both Tesla and Ford (along with others) need to solve.

Isn’t this an issue with pretty much any new car that doesn’t have a hole in the door for a physical key?

If the locks are electric and no mechanical key to unlock….. dead battery = nobody getting in the car.

Not sure how many cars are built like that today, but it isn’t just a door handle issue.

Apparently a Mercedes issue for over a decade-

 

[pgh.mache]

This is actually even more ridiculous of a situation than you'd think at first: this is basically the exact same thing as what happens if you lock your keys in literally any car. In fact, it's such an old and well known issue, it was even on Modern Family 15 years ago.

Sure, we can go over safety features, and how to ensure we can get a small child out of a car that dies/locks/whatever, but the fact is that it's super rare, and the answer is always: call 911, and/or break a window. If they haven't come up with a good solution to locking your keys in your car by now, they won't come up with a solution for the ultra-rare once-in-a-lifetime issue of, "the battery worked to open my child's door, but died before I could open my door."

 

[Otto klub]

Locking keys in the car is different. They have solved that. My wife's car is push to start. No key. If fob in car it will not lock. It will just honk if you try to lock it.
Can you lock fob. In the mache

 

[voxel]

Locking keys in the car is different. They have solved that. My wife's car is push to start. No key. If fob in car it will not lock. It will just honk if you try to lock it.
Can you lock fob. In the mache

Ford has but VW has not. I saw first hand a couple lock themselves out of their ID.4 and have to Uber home to retrieve the backup fob. ID.4 don’t have remote unlock on the app either.

 

[Timelessblur]

This is actually even more ridiculous of a situation than you'd think at first: this is basically the exact same thing as what happens if you lock your keys in literally any car. In fact, it's such an old and well known issue, it was even on Modern Family 15 years ago.

Sure, we can go over safety features, and how to ensure we can get a small child out of a car that dies/locks/whatever, but the fact is that it's super rare, and the answer is always: call 911, and/or break a window. If they haven't come up with a good solution to locking your keys in your car by now, they won't come up with a solution for the ultra-rare once-in-a-lifetime issue of, "the battery worked to open my child's door, but died before I could open my door."

The locking your keys in the car was a solved issue a while ago. A lot of cars if they detected a key inside the car they refuse allow the doors to lock or will automatically pop the trunk if it detects a key in there.

 

[ipca204]

The Mach-E is designed with a manual backup so that you can always get out of the car using the door release levers. There is no hidden backup lever to find -- if electrical power is out for any reason and you are inside the Mach-E, pull the door release lever all the way back, and it will mechanically unlock and open the door.

In the (extremely rare) situation like the article describes -- where the 12V battery has enough power to open the door once, but not enough to open it again -- the ideal solution is to use the jump power points to supply power from another vehicle or from one of the small jump boxes that are ubiquitous these days.

Source: Ford -- How Do I Use Ford Mustang Mach-E eLatch Doors?

Guys! Guys! We found a person who actually READS TFM...lol

 

[Ravensfan1996]

If you are inside the car the Mach E has manual release if the electronic one is failed or out of power. It’s just a harder pull on the same handle. Tesla has the same manual release as well, not sure if thats on newer models or not.

 

[Mach1E]

The locking your keys in the car was a solved issue a while ago. A lot of cars if they detected a key inside the car they refuse allow the doors to lock or will automatically pop the trunk if it detects a key in there.

Actually it’s not solved if your 12v battery is dead, the car couldn’t detect squat.

Either way, this issue isn’t unique to Tesla nor electric vehicles.

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