Does anyone know why Ford has pulled the BlueCruise 1.3 update?

[pranavs17]

Yes, I called Ford tech support. I’ve had this screen under software updates for over a month now. But I’m starting to see reports on here and Facebook that maybe they’ve started up again.

In the same boat as you are. Over a month now. Called Ford multiple times and all they have to say is that we need to wait for the server to send it out to us again. I don't think it's coming for a few more months at the very lest.

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[Plutoman15]

Seems that those that edited manually before will need to re-do the edits, yes. I had to re-do some of mine as well. Not sure if the same will be required for those going directly from 1.0/1.2 to 1.3. If so, it’s easy enough to do, but Ford will also send out another config update shortly after the main OTA that will enable the features as well.

So even if you update manually now and don’t make any as built changes, you can still benefit from the MUCH improved lane centering and cruise control while waiting for the config edits OTA to enable the new features.

does that mean the moving over for trucks beside you will work without edits or is that a new feature that won't work without the edits? The lane spacing is the main reason I look forward to BC1.3

 

[avdonr]

does that mean the moving over for trucks beside you will work without edits or is that a new feature that won't work without the edits? The lane spacing is the main reason I look forward to BC1.3

It depends, I personally updated from the old 1.4 build with previous manual as built edits. I am not certain if those coming from 1.0 or 1.2 will get the config edits necessary for that functionality if they update via FDRS. I know that those getting it OTA do have it enabled and working.

The feature you are talking about is called “in lane repositioning“. In any case, you could still benefit from a much improved lane centering/cruise control experience from the update even if you don’t have the new features enabled. Ford has said they will push out another OTA later on to change the config to get it all enabled.

 

[TheVirtualTim]

Not paused, I just got the 1.3 update on my 2023.0 GT. I am NOT in EA. Installing now.

That’s good to hear. I am in EA but my 23.0 GT hasn’t received it yet.

 

[Neil4Real]

Seems that those that edited manually before will need to re-do the edits, yes. I had to re-do some of mine as well. Not sure if the same will be required for those going directly from 1.0/1.2 to 1.3. If so, it’s easy enough to do, but Ford will also send out another config update shortly after the main OTA that will enable the features as well.

So even if you update manually now and don’t make any as built changes, you can still benefit from the MUCH improved lane centering and cruise control while waiting for the config edits OTA to enable the new features.

Ok, so your statement isn't accurate. BC 1.X has been available in FDRS, with Forscan edits, for a long while, since the beginning of the year. It has not been natively released in FDRS without any further modifications being needed. Obviously the stability changes are nice, but that isn't all BC 1.3 is, I'm sure most people want it for the lane change, as that'll be the most noticeable change.

 

[avdonr]

Ok, so your statement isn't accurate. BC 1.X has been available in FDRS, with Forscan edits, for a long while, since the beginning of the year. It has not been natively released in FDRS without any further modifications being needed. Obviously the stability changes are nice, but that isn't all BC 1.3 is, I'm sure most people want it for the lane change, as that'll be the most noticeable change.

The software in FDRS is the same as what gets applied OTA. The config edits to enable the features may very well be included, but all I’m saying is I cannot use my personal experience as an example because I previously made manual edits

We need someone who is on 1.0 or 1.2 to update via FDRS and provide feedback if the features are working or not.

Even the OTA doesn’t contain all the BC 1.3 edits. They just update the IPMA config but not the APIM. That’s why Ford said they will issue a second OTA to finalize the config edits.

 

[Plutoman15]

The software in FDRS is the same as what gets applied OTA. The config edits to enable the features may very well be included, but all I’m saying is I cannot use my personal experience as an example because I previously made manual edits

We need someone who is on 1.0 or 1.2 to update via FDRS and provide feedback if the features are working or not.

Even the OTA doesn’t contain all the BC 1.3 edits. They just update the IPMA config but not the APIM. That’s why Ford said they will issue a second OTA to finalize the config edits.

I am updating as I type (2021GTPE). We are first doing the updates, I will check the screen for BC1.3 options (lane change ect.). If they are not there I will try the edits.

If they are not there, what config edits do I need to try to turn on the new features?

 

[avdonr]

I am updating as I type (2021GTPE). We are first doing the updates, I will check the screen for BC1.3 options (lane change ect.). If they are not there I will try the edits.

If they are not there, what config edits do I need to try to turn on the new features?

You will not have the toggle options in SYNC regardless of if you do it via FDRS or OTA, those edits are coming later from Ford. You should however have the actual features enabled on the IPMA after the updates.

It would be good to go for a drive after the updates and check if the features like lane change and in lane repositioning are working before doing any manual edits. That will help us to confirm if Ford is updating the IPMA as built via FDRS or only OTA.

 

[Old_Norm]

I successfully received the Blue Cruise 1.3 update last night on my 2023 MME Select AWD.

 

[Plutoman15]

You will not have the toggle options in SYNC regardless of if you do it via FDRS or OTA, those edits are coming later from Ford. You should however have the actual features enabled on the IPMA after the updates.

It would be good to go for a drive after the updates and check if the features like lane change and in lane repositioning are working before doing any manual edits. That will help us to confirm if Ford is updating the IPMA as built via FDRS or only OTA.

updated and went for a drive and none of the features worked. (Lane repositioning, lane change)

 

[avdonr]

updated and went for a drive and none of the features worked. (Lane repositioning, lane change)

Ok, well that answers the question then. FDRS installs will need manual edits, or wait for Ford to deploy the config changes OTA.

 

[pcaw2003]

Installed this update today on my 2023.5.

I also have a 2023.5 and received notification last night that BlueCruise 1.3 update would be installed. Strange … as according to my window sticker, it was already installed from the factory (90-day trial).

Update installed at the scheduled time overnight. Successful on first try. And BlueCruise worked fine on the way to work this morning. So I guess all good? ??‍

 

[ROB2337]

The software in FDRS is the same as what gets applied OTA. The config edits to enable the features may very well be included, but all I’m saying is I cannot use my personal experience as an example because I previously made manual edits

We need someone who is on 1.0 or 1.2 to update via FDRS and provide feedback if the features are working or not.

Even the OTA doesn’t contain all the BC 1.3 edits. They just update the IPMA config but not the APIM. That’s why Ford said they will issue a second OTA to finalize the config edits.

I have a 2022 GT and just did all the FDRS updates yesterday and I do NOT have the lane change and lane repositioning toggles in the settings menu.

 

[avdonr]

I have a 2022 GT and just did all the FDRS updates yesterday and I do NOT have the lane change and lane repositioning toggles in the settings menu.

We knew about the toggles in SYNC not being there (See Ford post here: https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/bluecruise-1-3-software-update-and-sliders-explained.37648/). Ford is planning further OTAs to enable that.

The current OTA is only enabling lane change and in lane repositioning features in the IPMA, which we just confirmed is NOT happening when done via FDRS.

 

[RonTCat]

Difference with OTA and FDRS is that OTA usually uses an A/B swap process (not all the time), where the new software is loaded onto the module and simply “swapped out” with the old software upon installation/reboot. FDRS uses a direct write method which first erases the module and then writes the new software directly.

In theory, OTA should be more stable than FDRS programming due to this. If the A/B swap fails to install, the module should just revert back to the old known good software. If the FDRS direct write fails, the module is usually soft bricked until it is fully re-flashed.

While OTA should be more robust and less prone to bricking a vehicle, it’s understandable that Ford wants to gather data from installations on new vehicles first before updating older vehicles. Those new vehicles have less software/hardware differences than the older 2021s so they can learn from that process and refine the deployment so that it is more reliable for 2021s.

A/B swap is basically only for Sync, ECG, TCU. The rest are erase and replace, so they require vehicle "inhibit". OTA and FDRS are just the delivery mechanism, and don't affect how the module performs the flash (A/B vs erase&replace).

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