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This topic is so infuriating it was absolutely intentional to move the speedometer because it is simply a better place for it next to the speed sign recognition and the cruise control setting. The adas always displays what's active currently. Not having BC is fine, Copilot can do almost all the same stuff. It's like beating a dead horse but simplifying and streamlining the ipc is all good user interface design. More animation and and more data is not necessarily better. Ford is generally very conservative and practical with this car.
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You do not want to start down this rabbit hole. There is no return. This has beaten to death as often as the annual late fall “I got the wrong battery” threads.

For some of us the new position has the speed completely obscured by the steering wheel now. Not visible at all. Others can only see a partial digit. Personally, if I adjust my seat to see the entire speed and I drive more than an hour, I’m walking with a cane the rest of the day. If I adjust my seat so that it is properly adjusted I can see part of the first digit, presuming I’m going between 10 mph and 99 mph.

Further, I’m always aware of the vehicle automation status. I know what mode is engaged and what it will be doing. And as it is right now if I turn off lane assistance I get a do nothing car icon front and center.

We can also turn your query on its head. What’s the problem with moving the car automation status to the right and always having the speed front and center at all times?

Like I said, the subject has been beaten more than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And lest all of us professional thread derailers forget, the subject is how to use FORSCAN to get the speed front and center. No one actually has to do that.
I feel fortunate that my MME has an adjustable steering wheel and I've never had issues seeing the IP. I learned a long time ago that it's not healthy to dream about a company changing their software. It just won't make it happen.
 

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TLDR:
1. Change IPC value 720-02-01 xx*x xxxx xxxx to one of 0/4/8/C (Lane Assist Disabled)
2. Change Settings > Driver Assistance > Pre-Collision Assist > Distance Indication to OFF

DISCLAIMER: This turns off safety features, use at your own discretion. The effect on BlueCruise after this change is unknown as I don't use that feature. After this change, the lane assist button on the steering wheel does nothing. Adaptive cruise control appears to still work as expected.

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Hey folks! After having my brand new 2023 California Route 1 in for a service, they upgraded a bunch of modules, I guess that included PowerUp 6.8.0 because my instrument cluster started showing the ugly car-in-the-middle as everyone's been bashing here. I also hate it. Love the speedometer in the middle with the beautiful graphics, and that should always be an option for us to choose. @Ford Motor Company PLEASE make this an option so we don't have to hack around this.

Anyways, I've found a fix/workaround to get the speedometer back in the middle. It requires turning off Lane Assist via FORScan and then turning off Distance Indication. I personally dislike Lane Assist anyways (or at least the assist portion, I don't mind if it vibrates to alert me and then I can manually correct).

Adapter required:
https://a.co/d/cSsgylc or https://a.co/d/jeh2tPd

Software required:
https://forscan.org/download.html

Mach-E FORScan codes spreadsheet:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/forscan-mme-spreadsheet.24701/

Procedure:

1. Change IPC value 720-02-01 xx*x xxxx xxxx to one of 0/4/8/C (Lane Assist Disabled)
2. Change Settings > Driver Assistance > Pre-Collision Assist > Distance Indication to OFF

To determine what value you want 0/4/8/C, check what values you have already have for KIIWC and DRLCF...
e.g. if you're staring with:
A = KIIWC enabled • DRLCF disabled • LA Full_LDW_LKA
change to
8 = KIIWC enabled • DRLCF disabled • LA Disabled

forscan-la.jpg


distance-indication-off.jpeg


Before:
before.jpeg


After:
speedo-center.jpeg
Why would anyone willingly disable safety features on a car drive on public roads? ?
 

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To give you a timeline on this buggy IPC update.
  • It was first pushed out to new builds Job 2 2023s in June/July of 2023.
  • November of 2023 the bug was discovered by the public and acknowledged by Ford.
  • Early December 2023 the known to be buggy update was pushed out to Early Access members, where once again it was acknowledged to be a bug.
  • Late December 2023 the buggy update was pushed out to general release.
  • July 2024 new builds include an updated IPC version that fixes the bugs.
So, if you’re arguing that Ford can push out an update quickly, then what’s taking them so long to fix this issue that has existed for over a year and has been acknowledged as an issue for almost a year.
Which “bug” are you trying to correct for that is so serious that it requires disabling safety systems?
 

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You do not want to start down this rabbit hole. There is no return. This has beaten to death as often as the annual late fall “I got the wrong battery” threads.

For some of us the new position has the speed completely obscured by the steering wheel now. Not visible at all. Others can only see a partial digit. Personally, if I adjust my seat to see the entire speed and I drive more than an hour, I’m walking with a cane the rest of the day. If I adjust my seat so that it is properly adjusted I can see part of the first digit, presuming I’m going between 10 mph and 99 mph.

Further, I’m always aware of the vehicle automation status. I know what mode is engaged and what it will be doing. And as it is right now if I turn off lane assistance I get a do nothing car icon front and center.

We can also turn your query on its head. What’s the problem with moving the car automation status to the right and always having the speed front and center at all times?

Like I said, the subject has been beaten more than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And lest all of us professional thread derailers forget, the subject is how to use FORSCAN to get the speed front and center. No one actually has to do that.
Personally, I don’t object to altering the layout of the IP as long as all of the required indicators are still displayed (for example, I’d question removing the speedometer from the vehicle entirely). What I have a problem with is disabling safety features for purely cosmetic purposes (yes, I did read your post where you mentioned you couldn’t find a comfortable position to view the speedometer, and I think that’s an unfortunate design choice that Ford should correct in a way that doesn’t involve disabling safety systems).
 


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It's funny, my Mach-E never had the center speedo and it really never bothered me. Now that I know the offset speedo is caused by a software glitch, I really want the center speedo!
Trust me - you’re not missing anything (other than slightly more graphics in Unbridled mode.
 

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Which “bug” are you trying to correct for that is so serious that it requires disabling safety systems?
The look of the instrument cluster is more important to me than any “safety systems” that might be active on a side street.
 

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It's funny, my Mach-E never had the center speedo and it really never bothered me. Now that I know the offset speedo is caused by a software glitch, I really want the center speedo!
I learned here - that 2024.s have a center speed display . As mentioned I did not and will not buy a car for instrumentation . I recall all my old Porsche’s has a large and center tachometer.Speedo was small and to the side .
If / when ford offers a change I am sure the boards will light ? up with complaints.
We need popcorn lol
 

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Trust me - you’re not missing anything (other than slightly more graphics in Unbridled mode.
The offset speedo isn't a deal breaker by any means, but I, like many here, would prefer to have it front and center instead of an image of a car that does very little when not using BC or ACC.
 
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Why do you assume that all of us want that? Having the speedo readout 3 inches to the right is a big deal….really? I don't need to have those big digits right in front of my face. My peripheral vision is good enough to see my speedo when I need to.
For some of us who sit up higher it puts the speedo in a spot where it is obscured by the steering wheel. So, yes it's important. I understand not everybody cares but if it had just stayed in the center nobody would be complaining that they wanted it off on the right side.

If the image of the car actually did anything beyond show a box in front of it, I could see the argument for keeping it in the center. But aside from when BC or ACC is active, it's a static image sitting in the most valuable spot on the instrument cluster. Heck, it's digital - Ford could give us the option to move the speedometer where we prefer it. Then everybody is happy. Don't tell me they're too busy. They are a huge company - they can walk and chew bubble gum.

I wouldn't mind seeing media info on the IC, too, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
 
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For those folks asking "why the heck would you disable a safety feature just for an appearance change?"...

OPINION ALERT! :) Well, because I don't use that safety feature anyways. I've never needed or wanted the vehicle to steer itself. I have the same option available on my 2020 Subaru Ascent and always keep it off. That being said, I don't mind the line crossing alert, on the Mach-E it's a vibration on the wheel, on the Subaru Ascent it's a quiet beep with a visual light in the minimal HUD. But to have the wheel correct and steer for me just feels wrong and scares me. I enjoy driving and being in control of the car, and I believe that the more safety features we blindly rely on, the worse drivers we'll become, slowly getting less attentive by default. Especially the ones that turn the wheel for us. I know BlueCruise is a huge feature for some people, but I can't imagine a scenario where I'd ever use it. Other drastic safety features are awesome though, like emergency braking, etc. Just not a fan of wheel-turning lane assist. Even the eye detection is fine, I don't mind getting an alert if it detects my eyes closing. Just don't turn the wheel for me! :p
 

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? ? ? ?. I don't think I'll disable all that safety / convenience just to solve a non-issue
 

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I feel fortunate that my MME has an adjustable steering wheel and I've never had issues seeing the IP. I learned a long time ago that it's not healthy to dream about a company changing their software. It just won't make it happen.
Good for you.

Mine adjusts as well. I can adjust so there’s a combination of seating position and steering wheel that allows me an unobstructed view of the speed. As I said, and what you missed, though is that that position is a less than optimal position for driving. I would prefer to have better view, a more comfortable drive and not have to walk around with a cane and in pain for the rest of the day though. I know this sounds crazy, but maybe it would be better to adjust the seat properly?

In addition, and this may come as a shock to some, the odds are high that the majority of owners don’t use BC, lane keeping assist, or lane centering at all. They just drive. So why do a bunch of people come out and start complaining every time a thread about how to move the speed back to the center when all ADAS is off?

Is it that hard to remember what automation state you put the car in that you need that info front and center? Couldn’t you see the car icon and ADAS status if it was over on the far right? Or is something obscuring it?

This thread is about how to use FORSCAN to return the speed to the center when all ADAS is off. If you’d prefer to have a useless car icon there when driving your car with no ADAS, feel free to not use the instructions given in the original post.

As for Ford not changing software, I’d suggest you look at the 2024 models. Turn all ADAS off and the speed is front and center.
 
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For me, not knowing how fast I’m going because the speedo is behind my right hand and the steering wheel is far more dangerous than disabling lane keeping.

Given the MME’s smooth ride and instant acceleration, I’m quite likely to be going faster than I intended if I can’t see the speed.

Ford’s change has made my car less safe for me and others around me. Y’all who are laughing at those who dislike this change aren’t listening carefully. Nor is Ford.
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