Private Party Used 2021 Mach E First Edition - Dealer Pre-Inspection Report (Attached) - Any Red Flags?

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I'm interested in buying a used Mach E first edition from a private party.
I went and took a look at it last week and it looks great and appears to have been well maintained. Current owner also provide a copy of the warranty service receipt for HVJB replacement that occurred last year, which I was glad to see. I plugged in my OBD tool, and the HV battery SOH registered at 92% which seems good. Current owner also has a Ford Premium Care extended warranty through 2026 that they will transfer to me as part of sale.

VIN on this is vehicle is 3FMTK3SU0MMA06811

It's at 56K miles and as this is my first EV purchase, I had the current owner take it to their local Ford dealer where I paid for a pre-sale inspection. In case anyone is wondering, cost for the pre-inspection came to $223 with tax.

Service Advisor went through report with me on the phone, said they recommended that some of the modules be updated with new version of software and that can only be done though their computer, estimated cost at around $1k. Service advisor said seemed like a well maintained car that's in good condition. Check engine light is not on, and there are no set DTC that rep mentioned.

There was no personal info on the PDF report they sent me, so I attached to this message for the community. I also think it's a helpful example of what a dealer pre-inspection report might look like for others to see, and to help decide if it's worth the expense for them.

So here's my questions for this community:
  1. Anyone see any red flags from this report?
  2. Thoughts on if I should applying all of these updates, and if there is any that are must-do / should-do items in the list?
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Brondes Maumee. Usually a good dealer. Makes me disappointed that they are recommending modules should be updated. That's a scam unless there is a known issue that can be corrected with the update.

I would replace the 12V battery and call it a day.
 
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Brondes Maumee. Usually a good dealer. Makes me disappointed that they are recommending modules should be updated. That's a scam unless there is a known issue that can be corrected with the update.

I would replace the 12V battery and call it a day.
Just for clarity, service advisor didn't say "need to do this ASAP" more of a recommended to keep them up to date and prevent issues. I was thinking the same thing about replacing 12V battery, their report showed 72%, not sure if that's current charge % / SOH or something else. At any rate, I was going to pull it and have O'Rileys load test battery to see how it's looking (after purchase) of course.

I'll add that this pre-inspection report can be helpful in negotiating a price reduction with those recommended services.
 

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You should get and have all the current software that your MME can handle. For example 2025 software may not play well with your 21. I agree get the 12V and be done or get a 23.
 

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Just for clarity, service advisor didn't say "need to do this ASAP" more of a recommended to keep them up to date and prevent issues. I was thinking the same thing about replacing 12V battery, their report showed 72%, not sure if that's current charge % / SOH or something else. At any rate, I was going to pull it and have O'Rileys load test battery to see how it's looking (after purchase) of course.

I'll add that this pre-inspection report can be helpful in negotiating a price reduction with those recommended services.
For the money they are asking to update modules, you can buy the equipment and do it yourself and have money left over.

You are buying a First Edition. The 2021 Mach-E's have had 12V batteries dropping like flies with no warning. The load test won't prove anything. Just replace the battery. There are many threads about this.
 


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Just for clarity, service advisor didn't say "need to do this ASAP" more of a recommended to keep them up to date and prevent issues. I was thinking the same thing about replacing 12V battery, their report showed 72%, not sure if that's current charge % / SOH or something else. At any rate, I was going to pull it and have O'Rileys load test battery to see how it's looking (after purchase) of course.

I'll add that this pre-inspection report can be helpful in negotiating a price reduction with those recommended services.
I have owned my 2021 for 3 years now, I have taken over 50 updates, all sorts of modules. If I had a dealer check there would also be numerous updates I could pay them for, I would not bother. If an update is serious than Ford pushes it out OTA or issues a recall. The "nice to have" I can wait, or never get and its fine with me.
 

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Post the VIN on the FDRS thread and ask for one of the volunteers to run the VIN for update status and service history for a possible used purchase. ??
 
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Post the VIN on the FDRS thread and ask for one of the volunteers to run the VIN for update status and service history for a possible used purchase. ??
Looking at the PDF I attached, isn't that an export out of the FDRS system that the dealer has? I was thinking that they would see the same things as needing to be updated.
 

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Looking at the PDF I attached, isn't that an export out of the FDRS system that the dealer has? I was thinking that they would see the same things as needing to be updated.
I can’t read that on my phone right now, but some of the volunteers have access to both FDRS and PTS so they can look up the service history along with software levels and DTCs. They also good at explaining everything they find. ??
 

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I have PTS. Only issues have been the HVBJB replacement. Still has 24N05 open. I can't do any screenshots until later tonight. Here is the window sticker.
 

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I have PTS. Only issues have been the HVBJB replacement. Still has 24N05 open. I can't do any screenshots until later tonight. Here is the window sticker.
Thanks so much for sending this over! I had tried to download this from the FordDirect website where you put the VIN in but it keeps coming up -blank-.

The seller had a copy when I test drove it, but I forgot to take a picture.
 

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I didn’t read the whole report (because of the unfriendly layout) but did they check for repaired damages? If not you might want to look at Carfax or similar vehicle history reports.

Glad to see the exhaust and fuel tank are okay?
 
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I didn’t read the whole report (because of the unfriendly layout) but did they check for repaired damages? If not you might want to look at Carfax or similar vehicle history reports.

Glad to see the exhaust and fuel tank are okay?
I'm in a different state than the car, so it was kind of hard to get the inspection setup, I couldn't pay dealership in advance, owner had to schedule appointment, PDF scan not looking great. I had to laugh at some of the lines on it that clearly don't apply too. I'm glad I checked HVB SoH myself when I was in-person, as this report didn't (that I could tell) include a battery SoH which should be one of the most important data points for a used EV one would think. I did the Carfax type report before I went to see it in-person since it's out of state and that came back CLEAN as well.
 

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The first edition that I had was built the week of 1/4/21, that one has a lower vin and appears to have been built 12/1/20, so a very early MME. They worked a lot of bugs out in later MMEs, the early ones had brake pad issues, glass seal issues, HVBJB problems, etc. Hopefully those recalls were all done on that car. If it was me, I would pass on that car and find something a little newer.


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Thanks so much for sending this over! I had tried to download this from the FordDirect website where you put the VIN in but it keeps coming up -blank-.

The seller had a copy when I test drove it, but I forgot to take a picture.
Window stickers are purged from that site shortly after the sale of the vehicle is recorded.

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