Adventures of our Grabber Blue Pony...

[SpaceEVDriver]

While driving, we will also look for chargers in the Ford Navigation. There are some weird quirks related to how the Nav displays the chargers, so you have to get used to it before it's really useful. But once you've learned how it works, it can be helpful, especially since they've fixed some of the more obnoxious bugs. It's pretty decent for navigation while on a freeway heading to a charging station alongside that freeway, but I don't like it for anything that involves a lot of turns.

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[SpaceEVDriver]

Summary: The battery State of Health is reported as 92%. Depending on unknown details about the buffers Ford reserves for various reasons, I suspect this is accurate enough that if it's 95% or 90% it doesn't matter. We know that NMC battery chemistry has a steep capacity loss in the first 5-10%, and a sharp kink after that where the degradation is much slower. So I suspect we'll be at 92% for the next year or so before I see any further degradation in SoH.

Details:
I got around to running the car down to 0% and then charging to 100% without interruption.

I got home with 4% SoC and decided I wanted to bring it to 0%, so I drove around a bit with the heater and AC on. When the SoC display was 0%, I plugged in and let the car charge overnight at 48 Amps.

CarScanner claimed the battery had about 4.2 kWh with 0% SoC last night, right before I started the charge.

ChargePoint claims it delivered 93.4 kWh.
Ford Pass claims energy added was 87.3 kWh.
That's an efficiency of 93.5% energy transfer, which is about what I would expect.

If the energy transfer claims are true and the battery gained 87.3 kWh, then the total energy stored would be 87.3+4.2 kWh = 91.5 kWh, which is right near the maximum usable capacity claimed when the vehicle was sold.

What I didn't do was keep CarScanner on it all night. I wish I had because while FordPass claims the energy add was 87.3 kWh, the CarScanner information this morning indicated the battery "Energy to Empty" is 83.3 kWh. This is in part because last night's battery temperature was 19 ºC and this morning it was 16 ºC, so the battery's energy to empty declined a bit due to temperature. And there was likely some internal resistance during charging so the energy added claim by FordPass probably also includes some losses to resistive heating of the battery (not much).


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[SpaceEVDriver]

It's been a few months since I've been on this forum.

The Mustang now has 41,288 miles. Its use has decreased since we got the Lightning. This is not because we don't like the Mustang, but because I now have a great vehicle to drive as well. I've put almost 7,000 miles on the Lightning in the 2.5 months we've owned it.

Since I'm not driving the Mustang and we're taking the Lightning on our road trips, my partner has brought the Mustang's overall, long-term efficiency up to 4.1 miles/kWh. This includes some freeway driving, and short road trips from time-to-time, but not a lot. It is mostly around town.

We're still loving both vehicles and don't have plans to ever go back to dead dinosaur juice for transportation energy storage.

 

[Ford Motor Company]

It's been a few months since I've been on this forum.

The Mustang now has 41,288 miles. Its use has decreased since we got the Lightning. This is not because we don't like the Mustang, but because I now have a great vehicle to drive as well. I've put almost 7,000 miles on the Lightning in the 2.5 months we've owned it.

Since I'm not driving the Mustang and we're taking the Lightning on our road trips, my partner has brought the Mustang's overall, long-term efficiency up to 4.1 miles/kWh. This includes some freeway driving, and short road trips from time-to-time, but not a lot. It is mostly around town.

We're still loving both vehicles and don't have plans to ever go back to dead dinosaur juice for transportation energy storage.

We're glad to hear you're both enjoying EV. Thank you for being part of the Ford Family!

 

[Norcolboulder]

We're glad to hear you're both enjoying EV. Thank you for being part of the Ford Family!

Thank you for sharing all of the experiences and learnings !

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Been pretty busy just driving and working, so haven't updated in a while.

This is the current map made from memory, not from a GPS tracker, so I'm sure I'm missing a few shorter trips.

We have a 2022 Mustang Mach-E California Route 1 AWD (picked up in Feb 2022), ER and a 2023 Lightning Lariat ER (picked up in May 2024). The Mustang has ~44,000 miles on it and the Lightning has ~12,000 miles on it. For this map, I haven't separated the Lightning from the Mustang road trips.

The Lightning is more comfortable than the Mustang for long drives, but it's obviously less efficient. Each road trip requires a decision of which one is driven, and usually the Lightning wins.

We do wish someone had told us it was impossible to road trip before we started doing it...oh, wait, no we don't. These are the best road trip vehicles we've ever owned. We've only hit 10 states so far (20%), so still have a lot more road tripping to plan.

 

[Ford Motor Company]

Been pretty busy just driving and working, so haven't updated in a while.

This is the current map made from memory, not from a GPS tracker, so I'm sure I'm missing a few shorter trips.

We have a 2022 Mustang Mach-E California Route 1 AWD (picked up in Feb 2022), ER and a 2023 Lightning Lariat ER (picked up in May 2024). The Mustang has ~44,000 miles on it and the Lightning has ~12,000 miles on it. For this map, I haven't separated the Lightning from the Mustang road trips.

The Lightning is more comfortable than the Mustang for long drives, but it's obviously less efficient. Each road trip requires a decision of which one is driven, and usually the Lightning wins.

We do wish someone had told us it was impossible to road trip before we started doing it...oh, wait, no we don't. These are the best road trip vehicles we've ever owned. We've only hit 10 states so far (20%), so still have a lot more road tripping to plan.

We appreciate you sharing this with us!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I meant to do a 3-year review of our Mustang, but life's been...interesting and I got distracted.

We have ~46,589 miles on the Mustang. It would be more, but we traded the Tacoma in for a Lightning last April and have been taking that on the longer road trips (13k miles on it).

The Mustang has been a fantastic car and we're incredibly happy with it. I don't have a ton of stats to give:

• Miles: 46,589
• Major issues: 0
• Sets of tires: 1 (original)
• HVBJB replacement: 1 (scheduled warranty replacement)
• States: 10
• Long-term average efficiency: 4.1 miles/kWh
• Approximate Energy use: 11,363 kWh (assuming 75% road trips and 25% home charging. It's probably closer to 60:40, maybe even 50:50).
• Operating Cost (not counting purchase): $3830
  • Driving: $3180
  • Maintenance: $120
  • Vehicle Accessories: $200
  • Parts: $30
  • Charging Accessories: $300
• Regrets: None

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Having the tires replaced today. My anxiety is through the roof as the techs stand around trying to figure out how to jack it up. Sigh. I should have just pulled the tires&wheels and brought them without the car.

[edit]
They found some blocks and have them in the correct places, so I'm feeling a lot better now.

 

[kindofblue]

Having the tires replaced today. My anxiety is through the roof as the techs stand around trying to figure out how to jack it up. Sigh. I should have just pulled the tires&wheels and brought them without the car.

[edit]
They found some blocks and have them in the correct places, so I'm feeling a lot better now.

I bought a set of pucks and used the super sticky double sided tape to attach them to the lift points and after ~2..5 yrs and 20k mi. they're still attached.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I bought a set of pucks and used the super sticky double sided tape to attach them to the lift points and after ~2..5 yrs and 20k mi. they're still attached.

I have a set sitting in a box in my garage. Just haven't gotten around to installing them. They've been in the box for several years. Sigh.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Haven’t been around for a while, just driving and enjoying the Mustang. No issues. Did the 50k mile service, which involved: testing the brake fluid—it’s fine; replacing the 12V battery since it was 3.5 years old; checking fluids; and doing inspections.

Everything is great.
No complaints.
Loving the vehicle.

Wondering what might be available in three or so years when we get to 100k miles and start thinking about giving it to the spawn and replacing it. There’s nothing on the market that really compares, not even the newer Mustang (I don’t want to give up the frunk space we have, for one thing). Maybe the Rivian R2? Maybe the Scout Traveler (that’s much larger, though)? I don’t do brand loyalty, so Ford needs to offer something just as good as the Mustang, about the same size, and for a good price for me to consider staying with Ford.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

My partner set up an appointment to have a few recall items fixed today: the seat belt thing; supposedly the 12V battery thing, though that’s not necessary since I fixed it a few weeks ago; and the paint thing, though the dealer claimed our VIN doesn’t need it—so why does Ford say it needs to be checked?

When she got to the service center to drop off the car, the service advisor thought they were doing an oil change.

Why do we even have dealerships?
I’ve never had a dealership encounter where they gave me any confidence they knew what they were doing.

Ford needs to allow and partially or wholly fund independent shops to do EV work. Honestly, even if the next Ford EV is fantastic, I might skip over to a direct-to-consumer manufacturer just because of dealerships.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Well, it’s been four years and 60k miles, about half on long road trips (more than a day’s drive away from home), including hundreds of DCFC sessions.

Zero problems.
Fantastic vehicle.

Would I recommend a Mustang Mach-E to people considering a vehicle.

Maybe, but only with the caveat that they can’t trust Ford dealers to know anything about their car and if they don’t mind the potential cancellation of new vehicles as the political winds chaotically blow, sure. It’s a great feat of engineering hampered by anti-consumer dealership laws and an unpredictable, fickle CEO.

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