Poll: Ford Options vs Finance

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I’m really impressed with your Excel skills. Great job! I know it’s asking a lot, but how would you feel about adding a column on your first worksheet for us folks considering the RCL?
I don't know the interest rates or residuals for RCL. Also I'll admit I don't know much about leasing in general. So are rates and residuals the only things one needs to know?
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Yea, Dad had an old story of a friend of his that negotiated on a new car then handed them an AmEx card at the end. The last time I did a special order from the Ford dealer they had a $5k limit on cards.

Back in the 80's I bought an entire Mitsubishi Galant with a credit card. Dealers have wised up since and imposed limits.
 

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I’m really impressed with your Excel skills. Great job! I know it’s asking a lot, but how would you feel about adding a column on your first worksheet for us folks considering the RCL?
The shortcut is that, with the same amount down, the monthly payments will be $70 less and you'll pay $5000 more over three years and the buy out price will be much higher.

If you're wondering how the monthly can be $70 less but the total amount you pay is $5000 more, the short answer is that with Options you get the $7500 tax credit. So it's $7500 - (36 X $70) = $4980.

There is a image of a example sent by Ford posted by @machchiaz-o in this thread which illustrates how this works. Worth a look.
 

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Yep! Every dealer has its own policies, of course. I put $3k of the Fiesta on credit card. That was its dealer's limit. Different dealer this time (and 8 years later) and so this time the limit is $3.5k.

Now that I think about it though, most of us put at least *some* amount of deposit on our cards already. So if my dealer thinks it through, then they'll only let me put another $3k on card since I have $500 already deposited by card.

Ford dealer offered an amount that was below both offers. So I told them no thanks since I had two better offers in writing. They asked about them and then very slightly beat the better offer.

Yeah I'm not good at this, either. :)
I was thinking about putting the entire purchase on the card not the down. I can see how accepting the down would work for them. As for the $500 deposit they already have counting against the limit: Shhhh. LOL

Never thought of letting the dealer know about the CarMax offer. It's a great idea. Even if they just match it -- and in CA there is no sales tax advantage -- it avoids and extra stop.
 

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I purchased a used car once wholly on my credit card, and I was able to get 1% cash back at that. :)
 


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In my state the dealer has to collect sales tax at point of purchase. I'm leaning towards the Options financing. I would like to put max of 30% down, plus pay the sales tax in cash so I don't finance. Seems like this shouldn't be an issue. Can anyone confirm? Maybe @hybrid2bev
 

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In my state the dealer has to collect sales tax at point of purchase. I'm leaning towards the Options financing. I would like to put max of 30% down, plus pay the sales tax in cash so I don't finance. Seems like this shouldn't be an issue. Can anyone confirm? Maybe @hybrid2bev
So the 30% down payment limit on Options is based off of your Total Cash Price (line 1 amount). The Total Cash price could include the sales tax (depending on your state's version of the contract).

If your dealer does not put the sales tax on your financing contract, I'm assuming they will still have to put the tax amount on your purchase order because I'm assuming they have to prove they collected the sales tax to the tax authority.

I would think that it would be OK just like if you were to pay cash for anything else for the vehicle like the Doc Fees or Accessories, you're paying for it outside of the financing agreement. But I'm not in from the legal dept., so there's that.

Sample contract below: Always read your contract before signing.
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So the 30% down payment limit on Options is based off of your Total Cash Price (line 1 amount). The Total Cash price could include the sales tax (depending on your state's version of the contract).

If your dealer does not put the sales tax on your financing contract, I'm assuming they will still have to put the tax amount on your purchase order because I'm assuming they have to prove they collected the sales tax to the tax authority.

I would think that it would be OK just like if you were to pay cash for anything else for the vehicle like the Doc Fees or Accessories, you're paying for it outside of the financing agreement. But I'm not in from the legal dept., so there's that.

Sample contract below: Always read your contract before signing.
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Actually, this brings up a question: since I know my dinky little dealer near me is probably clueless, how will I know that they have me signing "Ford options" contract vs some other goofy thing? Will the contract explicitly call that out, or do I need to look for specific verbiage in the contract?
 

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A benefit of Ford Options is a $2500 credit, but this comes at a higher APR of 2.25%.

A benefit of Ford Financing is a lower APR of 0.9% (48 months) or 1.9% (60 months), but no credit. (There’s also a 72 month option at a much higher 3.9%!)

There are other pros/cons including a lower monthly payment for Ford Options, but I’m curious how many of us are doing Ford Options vs Financing.
Long reply here, sorry but thought some might be interested. I picked up my Mach E tonight (super excited, car is beautiful & drives great!) and my dealer quoted the options with a 4.5% APR even though my credit score is over 800. He said that was tier 1 rate. Where did you get a quote with the 2.5% APR on option plan? I am planning to finance with one of the credit unions they partner with for lower rate when they open in the morning. Look close when you get the details in writing. When they apply the APR rate and sales tax it's based on the full price rather than how a lease I always think of as based on the "part of the car you use over life of lease" for sales tax & cost of money/interest. The finance cost on their breakdowns were over $6k on 3yr option plan and almost $8k on 4yr. So even with the 2500 credit it seems like a lot of interest to pay for about $30k of car ($59k FE price less the residual value to buy car of $22-26kk or so at end of term).
 

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Long reply here, sorry but thought some might be interested. I picked up my Mach E tonight (super excited, car is beautiful & drives great!) and my dealer quoted the options with a 4.5% APR even though my credit score is over 800. He said that was tier 1 rate. Where did you get a quote with the 2.5% APR on option plan?
The 2.5% APR comes from the Ford Calculator. AFAIK a credit score of 700-750 would be considered Tier 1 by Ford Financing. Over 750 would be Tier 0 as would a credit score of over 800. Your score of 800+ should put you in the Tier 0/Tier 1+/A+ class. Perhaps @hybrid2bev can confirm that or explain where this is mistaken.

Is this Ford Encinitas?

FYI your takeout financing with Ford Options is guaranteed at 2.25% so that would be your rate for 72 or 84 months.

Yes you pay sales tax on the entire car because the title is transferred to you.
 
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Long reply here, sorry but thought some might be interested. I picked up my Mach E tonight (super excited, car is beautiful & drives great!) and my dealer quoted the options with a 4.5% APR even though my credit score is over 800. He said that was tier 1 rate. Where did you get a quote with the 2.5% APR on option plan? I am planning to finance with one of the credit unions they partner with for lower rate when they open in the morning. Look close when you get the details in writing. When they apply the APR rate and sales tax it's based on the full price rather than how a lease I always think of as based on the "part of the car you use over life of lease" for sales tax & cost of money/interest. The finance cost on their breakdowns were over $6k on 3yr option plan and almost $8k on 4yr. So even with the 2500 credit it seems like a lot of interest to pay for about $30k of car ($59k FE price less the residual value to buy car of $22-26kk or so at end of term).
Something is not right. The 2.25% options rate is right on Fords website when you select your socal zipcode. see the screencapture

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Long reply here, sorry but thought some might be interested. I picked up my Mach E tonight (super excited, car is beautiful & drives great!) and my dealer quoted the options with a 4.5% APR even though my credit score is over 800. He said that was tier 1 rate. Where did you get a quote with the 2.5% APR on option plan? I am planning to finance with one of the credit unions they partner with for lower rate when they open in the morning. Look close when you get the details in writing. When they apply the APR rate and sales tax it's based on the full price rather than how a lease I always think of as based on the "part of the car you use over life of lease" for sales tax & cost of money/interest. The finance cost on their breakdowns were over $6k on 3yr option plan and almost $8k on 4yr. So even with the 2500 credit it seems like a lot of interest to pay for about $30k of car ($59k FE price less the residual value to buy car of $22-26kk or so at end of term).
I don’t think they quoted you the actual Ford Options financing. That should be 2.25% for 36 or 48 months. If you go to the Ford website and go through the ordering process for a Mach E and then click the financing options it’ll show you the interest rates for Ford Options and for financing. Financing you can get 0.9% for 48 months or 1.9% for 60 months.
 

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below is the option from my dealer. In that X pricing is not applied but will be applied when i get the vehicle. I am planning for 48 months. Not sure if this is good pricing

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Something is not right. The 2.25% options rate is right on Fords website when you select your socal zipcode. see the screencapture
And here on the right side you see the program numbers

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below is the option from my dealer. In that X pricing is not applied but will be applied when i get the vehicle. I am planning for 48 months. Not sure if this is good pricing

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