How many got screwed on the tax credit? [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

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That's not correct.

Starting in 2024, the tax credit could be taken at the point of sale. If it was (for vehicles that had a tax credit), whether or not your tax liability was sufficient was IRRELEVANT. If the dealer made you take the tax credit on your taxes, then your tax liability being sufficient matter. In all cases, the income cutoffs mattered, so if the dealership processed the credit but you didn't make the income cutoffs, you'd have to pay it back.
Hmm, OK, I will take your words for that. I actually leased my 2024 Mach-E, so I didn't have dig deep into that, and I guess I just misunderstood. What I did know, is that if I bought it, I wouldn't get any tax credit because by the time I bought it at the end of August 2024, that was gone.
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Hmm, OK, I will take your words for that. I actually leased my 2024 Mach-E, so I didn't have dig deep into that, and I guess I just misunderstood. What I did know, is that if I bought it, I wouldn't get any tax credit because by the time I bought it at the end of August 2024, that was gone.
Transferred credit below means transferred from you to the dealer, so you get it at point of sale.


Q4. What if a buyer has insufficient tax liability to fully use a transferred credit? (added Oct. 6, 2023)
A4. The amount of the credit that the electing taxpayer elects to transfer to the eligible entity may exceed the electing taxpayer's regular tax liability for the taxable year in which the sale occurs, and the excess, if any, is not subject to recapture from the dealer or the buyer.
 

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A credit check just gives them a credit score. They don’t know your income from that.
I think he was getting at the application for a loan includes income. Of course, you may be filing joint yet apply for a one person loan, so they wouldn't know both incomes, nor do they know anything else about your tax filing situation.
 
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Ok this thread makes me sad now. I am out. Thanks for the info.
 


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2023. It only qualified for half the amount according to the IRS form and documents I got from the dealer. However in June I got a letter from the IRS saying that my 23 MME didn't qualify and I am short $3500 on my 2024 taxes now.
i never even knew the 23's were eligible, but mine was purchased in 2024 anyway..
 

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Yes, Ford Credit asks your level of income. But they have no way to verify it is accurate beyond your credit report. And, they have nothing to do with your eligibility for the tax credit, nor whether you get the tax credit or not.

Feel free to DM me the forms your dealer provided. If a dealership promised a tax credit in writing, you may have a case with their GM or in court.
 

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Just curious how many people got a nasty letter from the IRS after learning your tax credit was rejected because your MME isn't part of the EV rebate?

What were the circumstances and what did you have to do to fix it?
Just receive my letter a couple of weeks ago.
 

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Just receive my letter a couple of weeks ago.
So you also bought in 2024, thinking you were getting a tax credit when you filed, based on the dealership giving you false information?
 

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So you also bought in 2024, thinking you were getting a tax credit when you filed, based on the dealership giving you false information?
I actually purchased my vehicle in April of this year. I was told by the dealership, that I would get a $4000 rebate if an "EV" was purchased. (Which I did) Surprise, IRS sends me a letter in the mail. You don't qualify for a tax credit because you opted to receive the rebate. I was never given that option.
 

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I actually purchased my vehicle in April of this year. I was told by the dealership, that I would get a $4000 rebate if an "EV" was purchased. (Which I did) Surprise, IRS sends me a letter in the mail. You don't qualify for a tax credit because you opted to receive the rebate. I was never given that option.
The tax credit for buying a USED EV is $4,000, only available at time of purchase, from a car dealership. Is that what you got? If yes, you get no additional tax credit.

If you bought new, in 2024 there is no tax credit available for the Mach-E.
 

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Just curious how many people got a nasty letter from the IRS after learning your tax credit was rejected because your MME isn't part of the EV rebate?

What were the circumstances and what did you have to do to fix it?
I had asked my sales contact about the rebate very early (because I noticed the instant credit/discount was not applied to price online or on the window sticker) and they explained it was because the MME was made in Mexico and didn't qualify. Thankfully I ended up getting the Ford Employee Discount sale/discount which did pretty much the same, for the same amount in the end.
 

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I had asked my sales contact about the rebate very early (because I noticed the instant credit/discount was not applied to price online or on the window sticker) and they explained it was because the MME was made in Mexico and didn't qualify. Thankfully I ended up getting the Ford Employee Discount sale/discount which did pretty much the same, for the same amount in the end.
That is basically the situation, the government take away, and then Ford tries to compensate. But you have to hit it right, depending on what the government/Ford is doing at any given point.

I'm not sure how "profitable" that is for Ford, but that is what is going on.

The bad part in all of this is the fact that the dealer isn't keep up with the situation, and informing the customers correctly.
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