110 Volt Charging

[JohnFoxeSheets]

10,000 miles per year is not required to break even on emissions, and depending on how you count emissions EVs can be cleaner starting from Mile 0. The large majority of emissions in a vehicle's lifecycle are tailpipe emissions, and the relative savings vary significantly by region. In general, less driving is less emissions. And it's nearly a myth that the indirect/non tailpipe emissions for EVs are higher than ICE vehicles. See third link below.

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/driving-cleaner#read-online-content

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

https://environment.yale.edu/news/a...ide-lower-carbon-emissions-through-additional

To be clear, I'm not anti-EVs - quite the contrary. I just posted based off a study I read about. But I don't have the link, so I unfortunately I can't provide my source. The point is that manufacturing EVs is more carbon intensive than manufacturing similar ICE vehicles. To offset that initial carbon output, the EV needs to be used in a way that offsets what would have been ICE miles with their intendant carbon output. (Obviously the source of electricity used for an EV matters. For instance 100% of the electricity I use to charge my EV at home comes from carbon-free sources.)

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[Opa]

OK how about this rather unique charging situation:

My wife and I live in a semi retirement apartment complex that is more than happy to accommodate a 110 foot extension cord plugged into our patio outlet, for a destination charger for our MMEGT.
of course, a 240 V is possible but the installation expenses are *cough* rather high ?
Since we provide Monday through Friday daycare, for our three-year-old granddaughter, we commute to our daughter and son-in-law‘s house daily.
Their solution for us was to install a Autel Home Level 2 EV Charger with a dedicated 50Amp, 240V breaker in the Indoor garage fuse box.

To make it easier for us, they mounted the Car Charging Station, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth modules to a protected area on the brick wall on the outside of the garage & the EVSE, Flexible 25-Foot Cable, has never given us an issue even when the temperatures get down in the very low 20s (it very rarely gets down below 20° here in northern Alabama)

this solution works great: for the two hours or so we are over at our granddaughters house. We plug-in at 50 A when we get back to the apartment we have been plugging in using our Ford portable charger this way our car is always at 90% or above just in case we have an emergency trip.

I’ve been reading various posts that suggest using the Ford charger as a daily destination charger is not the greatest idea in the world, so I am certainly open to suggestions as to a great replacement charger and simply keep the Ford charger in our trunk as an emergency destination charger.

TIA!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

10,000 miles per year is not required to break even on emissions, and depending on how you count emissions EVs can be cleaner starting from Mile 0. The large majority of emissions in a vehicle's lifecycle are tailpipe emissions, and the relative savings vary significantly by region. In general, less driving is less emissions. And it's nearly a myth that the indirect/non tailpipe emissions for EVs are higher than ICE vehicles. See third link below.

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/driving-cleaner#read-online-content

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

https://environment.yale.edu/news/a...ide-lower-carbon-emissions-through-additional

This is correct.

Many of the older, "dirtier" BEVs required replacing around 20,000-30,000 ICE miles *total* to hit the emissions crossover point from building and driving the car compared with an ICE of the same mass/size, assuming the BEV's electricity came from a fossil fuel powered grid. Now, you it's much sooner with newer BEVs, some to the point of having fewer emissions at mile 0 and onward. And a BEV's emissions can improve over time as the energy source is transitioned away from fossil fuels. An ICE's emissions get worse over time.

The 120 vs 240 volt consideration is mostly about what you have available and what you can afford. If you only have 120 volts, there's no reason to put off getting an EV, just know there will be a few compromises compared with access to 240 volts.

We installed a ChargePoint Home Flex on a 60A 240 volt circuit before we bought the car. Then we moved and I didn't have the time to install it for a year. That year on 120 volts was fine. We planned ahead, didn't get the warmer battery before a road trip (unless we spent a bit extra battery power to map a route to a DCFC before leaving), and there were a few other (minor) inconveniences. I recently installed the ChargePoint and we were reminded how great it is to have 240 volt charging. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a 120 volt solution over not getting an EV.

 

[RickMachE]

OK how about this rather unique charging situation:

My wife and I live in a semi retirement apartment complex that is more than happy to accommodate a 110 foot extension cord plugged into our patio outlet, for a destination charger for our MMEGT.
of course, a 240 V is possible but the installation expenses are *cough* rather high ?
Since we provide Monday through Friday daycare, for our three-year-old granddaughter, we commute to our daughter and son-in-law‘s house daily.
Their solution for us was to install a Autel Home Level 2 EV Charger with a dedicated 50Amp, 240V breaker in the Indoor garage fuse box.

To make it easier for us, they mounted the Car Charging Station, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth modules to a protected area on the brick wall on the outside of the garage & the EVSE, Flexible 25-Foot Cable, has never given us an issue even when the temperatures get down in the very low 20s (it very rarely gets down below 20° here in northern Alabama)

this solution works great: for the two hours or so we are over at our granddaughters house. We plug-in at 50 A when we get back to the apartment we have been plugging in using our Ford portable charger this way our car is always at 90% or above just in case we have an emergency trip.

I’ve been reading various posts that suggest using the Ford charger as a daily destination charger is not the greatest idea in the world, so I am certainly open to suggestions as to a great replacement charger and simply keep the Ford charger in our trunk as an emergency destination charger.

TIA!

Better make sure that 110 foot cord is 12 gauge...

 

[Opa]

Better make sure that 110 foot cord is 12 gauge...

Actually, 18ga - I over-engineer

 

[RickMachE]

Actually, 18ga - I over-engineer

18 is smaller than 12...

 

[Opa]

Oops lol
Well, I meant the heavier
gauge not the lighter one?

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