30k Miles on Premium - Rears are Shot

[heisnuts]

You wouldn't need another alignment when replacing the other 2 tires later as they will be aligning all 4 wheels now. If you are only replacing 2 tires, you will want to stick with the same tire so everything matches (and the OEM tire is not a bad tire BTW). If you are replacing all 4 you could select any brand/model tire you want.

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[HuntingPudel]

Hey, I was able to go through the OEM Michelin's in 19,000 miles.... But then again, I also went through 5 HVBJB's too.... Here is the thread and what the tires looked like at 19K. Tire thread

I just want to know why Ford hasn’t put a ‘24 in your hands to test the HVBJB with the new rear motor and extended limit. ?‍?

 

[DoubleDribble]

With AWD its typical that you replace all 4 tires together. If run two new tires on the rear and two old tires on the front they will rotate at different rates. It will force the differential to work overtime and shorten its lifespan. EV's don't have diffs but the computer will have to sort out the the different RPM's and Ford is probably not going to recommend it.

 

[ValentinoRossi]

With AWD its typical that you replace all 4 tires together. If run two new tires on the rear and two old tires on the front they will rotate at different rates. It will force the differential to work overtime and shorten its lifespan. EV's don't have diffs but the computer will have to sort out the the different RPM's and Ford is probably not going to recommend it.

Thanks, I am actually leaning towards just replacing all 4 because I think I want to try a different tire like the Cross Climate 2 based on my initial research on the forum. Seem like a better all around tire and and since I set my car to only charge to 85% I am not too worried about range, I pretty much never go below 25%.

 

[Space_Pony]

Hey, I was able to go through the OEM Michelin's in 19,000 miles.... But then again, I also went through 5 HVBJB's too.... Here is the thread and what the tires looked like at 19K. Tire thread

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[dabois89]

If those 2 are in good shape, keep them in case you need them.
You can also check with the tire shop and if there close enough they'll recommend on whether to replace them.

I second this, buy a wheel and have one tired mounted on it as a spare since unfortunately Mach Es dont come with one.

 

[kindofblue]

I second this, buy a wheel and have one tired mounted on it as a spare since unfortunately Mach Es dont come with one.

Not many new cars come with spares these days. Just sayin'.

 

[Snakebitten]

Tires and brake pads. They are both foundational components to the dynamics of every ride in my car.
Afterall, that tiny contact patch IS the point where all energy is transferred to motion.

So they get replaced almost immediately if either transmit that they are falling off from peak performance.

If I had a Buick Encore, I might be a little more patient with such things. ?
But the Mach-E? It's torque and pork works those donuts and pads for all they are capable.

 

[ValentinoRossi]

Tires and brake pads. They are both foundational components to the dynamics of every ride in my car.
Afterall, that tiny contact patch IS the point where all energy is transferred to motion.

So they get replaced almost immediately if either transmit that they are falling off from peak performance.

If I had a Buick Encore, I might be a little more patient with such things. ?
But the Mach-E? It's torque and pork works those donuts and pads for all they are capable.

I so rarely touch the brakes I would be shocked if I need them TBH. I pride myself on perfect one peddle driving lol

 

[Snakebitten]

I so rarely touch the brakes I would be shocked if I need them TBH. I pride myself on perfect one peddle driving lol

Then you aren't living up to your name!
Your rear wheel is off the ground.
You obviously are on the binders

 

[nuMach]

Bro, those rears in the photo are done. Unless you are in southern US.
Elsewhere - snow and rain will have poor traction, not saying that as they are on warmer dry days, they are anything special.

IMO, new same tires on rear only.
By the time one end is worn, its very likely all 4 will be bald together, or fronts aged out.

Alignment is a new gimick tire centers are using to up-sell. im and old guy, and this is a new tactic.
People go for an an alignment if they see uneven wear across the tread. I own a tread guage and chek em monthly with pressures. You can catch a trend before its noticeable. The other reason most get an alignment is uncentered steering wheel. This by itself doesn't indicate alignment issues, but if it was good and is now bad - thats a trip to the shop. Even if you get the alignment, the tech can have the wheel uncentered while doing the adjustment and give it back to you like that.

Im more of an if it aint broke... kinda guy.

If you have the pockets - well yes by all means do all 4, and check/fix alignment if required.

Only downside of keeping fronts is age. Even if they have good tread, if over 5 years old, the rubber no longer has its 'new status' characteristics. You can google tire age, and results are between 5 and 8 years to replace, regardless of appearance.

Don't think we have 2019's on the road do we?

 

[bpbailey]

You could rotate the tires yourself, but nobody is gonna rotate them for you in this situation.

Personally, I would drive another 5,000 miles and just replace all 4. I never rotate my tires because I don’t think it extends the life enough to pay for the rotations. They wear unevenly as a result, but no big deal. I got 50k out of my OEMs and definitely took them down to the nub.

Hmm...a tire rotation runs about $30 every 10,000 miles. I would say that pretty much pays for itself.

 

[SonicBlue]

Hmm...a tire rotation runs about $30 every 10,000 miles. I would say that pretty much pays for itself.

Does it though? First, $30 is probably low. Second, most places recommend rotating every 3-5k miles lol. And some people here actually do that.

But let’s go with your $30, and let’s say you rotate your tires 8 times to extend your tire life from 45k to 60k, and a set of tires runs you $800. I’m being extremely generous toward your position with all these numbers. Tire rotation probably costs a bit more than that, and probably doesn’t extend the life by 15,000. But just for argument’s sake.

That’s $1,040 for 60k miles = 1.73 cents per mile, and $800 for 45k miles = 1.77 cents per mile. You saved 0.04 cents per mile. $24 over 60k miles. And that’s if your time is worth nothing.

Now raise the price of the tire rotation a bit, or reduce the extended life a bit, and you save nothing at all. Maybe you actually lose money. And again, you’ve definitely lost money - a lot money - if you value your time at all.

Tire rotation is the household recycling of the auto industry: wasted time and effort that accomplishes next to nothing.

 

[ValentinoRossi]

Bro, those rears in the photo are done. Unless you are in southern US.
Elsewhere - snow and rain will have poor traction, not saying that as they are on warmer dry days, they are anything special.

IMO, new same tires on rear only.
By the time one end is worn, its very likely all 4 will be bald together, or fronts aged out.

Alignment is a new gimick tire centers are using to up-sell. im and old guy, and this is a new tactic.
People go for an an alignment if they see uneven wear across the tread. I own a tread guage and chek em monthly with pressures. You can catch a trend before its noticeable. The other reason most get an alignment is uncentered steering wheel. This by itself doesn't indicate alignment issues, but if it was good and is now bad - thats a trip to the shop. Even if you get the alignment, the tech can have the wheel uncentered while doing the adjustment and give it back to you like that.

Im more of an if it aint broke... kinda guy.

If you have the pockets - well yes by all means do all 4, and check/fix alignment if required.

Only downside of keeping fronts is age. Even if they have good tread, if over 5 years old, the rubber no longer has its 'new status' characteristics. You can google tire age, and results are between 5 and 8 years to replace, regardless of appearance.

Don't think we have 2019's on the road do we?

Ha its funny because I am 40 and i never remember the alignment up sell when I first starting owning cars. That doesnt mean it wasnt always a good idea either though. I can say that there is much more wear on the outer 1/3rd of the tread than the inner portion is. However, I think every tire i've ever had wears a little morre on the outside.

One of the fronts looks worse than the other so I might just do all 4. I think a local shop will throw in the alignment for free, so I might just got for that.

Thinking the cross country 2s still.

 

[ValentinoRossi]

Does it though? First, $30 is probably low. Second, most places recommend rotating every 3-5k miles lol. And some people here actually do that.

But let’s go with your $30, and let’s say you rotate your tires 8 times to extend your tire life from 45k to 60k, and a set of tires runs you $800. I’m being extremely generous toward your position with all these numbers. Tire rotation probably costs a bit more than that, and probably doesn’t extend the life by 15,000. But just for argument’s sake.

That’s $1,040 for 60k miles = 1.73 cents per mile, and $800 for 45k miles = 1.77 cents per mile. You saved 0.04 cents per mile. $24 over 60k miles. And that’s if your time is worth nothing.

Now raise the price of the tire rotation a bit, or reduce the extended life a bit, and you save nothing at all. Maybe you actually lose money. And again, you’ve definitely lost money - a lot money - if you value your time at all.

Tire rotation is the household recycling of the auto industry: wasted time and effort that accomplishes next to nothing.

It's funny because I always though this way (time IS money afterall) , but I feel like if I just had done one single rotation, i could have probably got another 10k out of these. would have probably been worth it.

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