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Apologies in advance for the long post but, here goes...

Last weekend, I took my 2023 Mach-E GT for its first LONG road trip. I drove from Tampa, FL to Muncie, IN. On the first 100 miles or so, the hands-fee driving feature of BlueCruise worked great (it usually does)! I stopped for a charge and when I got back on the interstate, it decided it would initiate the self-driving feature only if I was driving behind another vehicle. If I changed lanes, or if the driver in front of me changed lanes, the system told me to resume control of the vehicle, Once I recognized this issue, I called the Ford Vehicle Technology line to ask them some questions. I just wanted to understand what was happening. Rose was eager to help. I asked her if there were any caveats as to when the self-driving feature would activate (ie speed, or the need for other vehicles to be in front of me). She told me she was going to contact the BlueCruise EXPERTS to help me find an answer.

While on hold, I crossed the Florida/Georgia state line and the self-driving feature activated with no other vehicles around me (I also slowed down due to the GA State Troopers). When Rose returned to the line with the "expert", I began to ask them about the issues. At this point, I am not so curious about the need for other vehicles, as much as I am wondering if it is speed or highway specific. So, I asked the expert if there are speed requirements or any other requirements that might cause the self-driving feature to activate/de-activate. She said "Crusie control must be activated with lane-centering. Your eyes must be on the road, and your hands must be on the steering wheel for the self-driving feature to work." She proceeded by stating that "If you take your hands off the steering wheel, the self-driving feature will deactivate." Keep in mind that at this point, my vehicle is in self-driving mode and my hands are NOT on the steering wheel. I asked "Do you hear what you are telling me? You are telling me that the Hands-Free feature of BlueCruise needs my hands to be NOT-Free! That makes ZERO sense to me!" She said "That is correct. Your hands must be on the steering wheel for the self-driving feature to work." At his point I am very frustrated because this "expert" clearly needs some more training! Anyway... The self-driving feature worked beautifully until I was north of Indianapolis where it decided it needs another vehicle to work properly. The same issues happened in reverse on my way home. Ever since crossing back into Florida, it hasn't worked the way it was designed to work.

I LOVE my E-Pony, but this little issue is annoying me. Has anyone else had these issues with the self-driving feature? If so, what did you do to solve the problem? I'm looking forward to your responses. @Ford Motor Company, do you have anything to add?

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How fast were you going? It generally doesn’t work over 80 mph
 
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I was going 82 mph until I crossed into Georgia. After entering Tennessee, I drove 80 to 85 mph and it worked fine. North of Indianapolis I was driving no faster than 78 and it was not working. The "experts" say speed should not affect the self-drivimg feature. ??‍♂
 

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I was going 82 mph until I crossed into Georgia. After entering Tennessee, I drove 80 to 85 mph and it worked fine. North of Indianapolis I was driving no faster than 78 and it was not working. The "experts" say speed should not affect the self-drivimg feature. ??‍♂
Hands free will not work over 80mph. If it was already engaged, it will stay on at 81mph, but as soon as you hit 82mph, hands free will disengage, and won't re-engage until you drop to 80mph or lower.
 


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That's definitely, absolutely, 110%, fully and fundamentally NOT true. Ask me how I know.
May be an anomaly but I’m 110% fully and fundamentally sure because i’m on my third Mach-e and all have shut off at 81 mph
 
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May be an anomaly but I’m 110% fully and fundamentally sure because i’m on my third Mach-e and all have shut off at 81 mph
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Apologies in advance for the long post but, here goes...

Last weekend, I took my 2023 Mach-E GT for its first LONG road trip. I drove from Tampa, FL to Muncie, IN. On the first 100 miles or so, the hands-fee driving feature of BlueCruise worked great (it usually does)! I stopped for a charge and when I got back on the interstate, it decided it would initiate the self-driving feature only if I was driving behind another vehicle. If I changed lanes, or if the driver in front of me changed lanes, the system told me to resume control of the vehicle, Once I recognized this issue, I called the Ford Vehicle Technology line to ask them some questions. I just wanted to understand what was happening. Rose was eager to help. I asked her if there were any caveats as to when the self-driving feature would activate (ie speed, or the need for other vehicles to be in front of me). She told me she was going to contact the BlueCruise EXPERTS to help me find an answer.

While on hold, I crossed the Florida/Georgia state line and the self-driving feature activated with no other vehicles around me (I also slowed down due to the GA State Troopers). When Rose returned to the line with the "expert", I began to ask them about the issues. At this point, I am not so curious about the need for other vehicles, as much as I am wondering if it is speed or highway specific. So, I asked the expert if there are speed requirements or any other requirements that might cause the self-driving feature to activate/de-activate. She said "Crusie control must be activated with lane-centering. Your eyes must be on the road, and your hands must be on the steering wheel for the self-driving feature to work." She proceeded by stating that "If you take your hands off the steering wheel, the self-driving feature will deactivate." Keep in mind that at this point, my vehicle is in self-driving mode and my hands are NOT on the steering wheel. I asked "Do you hear what you are telling me? You are telling me that the Hands-Free feature of BlueCruise needs my hands to be NOT-Free! That makes ZERO sense to me!" She said "That is correct. Your hands must be on the steering wheel for the self-driving feature to work." At his point I am very frustrated because this "expert" clearly needs some more training! Anyway... The self-driving feature worked beautifully until I was north of Indianapolis where it decided it needs another vehicle to work properly. The same issues happened in reverse on my way home. Ever since crossing back into Florida, it hasn't worked the way it was designed to work.

I LOVE my E-Pony, but this little issue is annoying me. Has anyone else had these issues with the self-driving feature? If so, what did you do to solve the problem? I'm looking forward to your responses. @Ford Motor Company, do you have anything to add?

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Your vehicle is not “self-driving”. Ford does not sell any “self-driving” vehicles to consumers in the United States.
Your vehicle may be equipped with a Ford Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS) called BlueCruise. BlueCruise, under certain circumstances and with the correct equipment and settings, may offer a mode called “Hands-Free”. This is NOT self-driving. You are always responsible for the safe operation of your car.
Your car looks great by the way! I hope you enjoy it!
 

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May be an anomaly but I’m 110% fully and fundamentally sure because i’m on my third Mach-e and all have shut off at 81 mph
Maybe there is a vehicle build or BC difference, or maybe it is location aware? I have activated it on a road in America which has an 85MPH speed limit, and it seemed happy to go 89 MPH hands free. I can absolutely confirm this is true for a '21 Job 1 with BlueCruise 1.0. Again, maybe there was some update or difference or location-aware system.
 

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Maybe there is a vehicle build or BC difference, or maybe it is location aware? I have activated it on a road in America which has an 85MPH speed limit, and it seemed happy to go 89 MPH hands free. I can absolutely confirm this is true for a '21 Job 1 with BlueCruise 1.0. Again, maybe there was some update or difference or location-aware system.
I've had a Job1 and Job2 2021 with BC 1.0. Both have not allowed hands free over 82.

All the features work over 80, except for hands free. And of course you can take your hands off but will get the hands on steering wheel alert after a few seconds. You'll still get lane centering, and the car will steer, but you're not allowed to take your hands off.
 

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For me it tells me to put my hands on the wheel when I go past 80. It still auto steers but not hands free. I’m on 1.0
 
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That's definitely, absolutely, 110%, fully and fundamentally NOT true. Ask me how I know.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you, because it worked for me on several occasions on speeds greater than 81 mph.
 
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Your vehicle is not “self-driving”. Ford does not sell any “self-driving” vehicles to consumers in the United States.
Your vehicle may be equipped with a Ford Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS) called BlueCruise. BlueCruise, under certain circumstances and with the correct equipment and settings, may offer a mode called “Hands-Free”. This is NOT self-driving. You are always responsible for the safe operation of your car.
Your car looks great by the way! I hope you enjoy it!
Semantics... I called it "self-driving" mode and it got my point across. ? I am ALWAYS on high alert when using "ADAS". Thank you for the compliment on the car! I am enjoying it completely! ???
 

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For me it tells me to put my hands on the wheel when I go past 80. It still auto steers but not hands free. I’m on 1.0
Mine works at 81, but not 82. Weird how there is not a set number consistent across all vehicles.

Has anyone else had these issues with the self-driving feature? If so, what did you do to solve the problem?
There are a lot of factors like un-mapped roads, quality of the road surface, quality of the painted lines, low visibility due to weather/sun, and/or smudges on your front camera or radar sensors.
Any of the above could cause hands-free to not work in a particular set of circumstances.
 

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I personally would only hand fly the MME barreling along at those speeds anyway. Especially if other vehicles are changing lanes!
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