Boycotting 6.8

[Murse-In-Airy]

I too love my unbridled animations but…..
I’m gonna say it.

I drive A LOT of rental cars. Pretty much all 2021 and newer. All makes. All models. I can’t think of a single one that has had the speedometer in the very center. Most cars these days all have an info screen in the center. It shows what song is on. The tire pressures. The trip meters. The fuel efficiencies. Hell, I’m pretty sure my 2010 F-150 had an offset speedometer.
All the indignation over an offset speedometer (when it’s ubiquitous across the entire industry) sounds like a bunch of spoiled Boomers wanting their ‘74 Mustang back the way is was.

Getting off my soapbox and ready for my hate mail.
(Queue everyone providing examples of cars I haven’t driven in the last few years…)

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[Mach1E]

You missed my use of the word choice. There are times when these features only get in the way. Not using them does not inherently make me a less safe driver. I am actually more likely to be engaged knowing I am controlling the car. The only feature we are talking about losing is lane assist. If I want speed control I will choose to turn on adaptive cruise control. Every other feature is still active.

BC is too hyped. It is a cool technology when it works. In nearly three years I have taken exactly one road trip where it was useful. Do I want it in the car? Yes. Do I want it to define the car? No.

Maybe it is just best to say that I am done with Ford taking away things I liked and they are not adding enough value that appeals to me to stay on the update train.

That is my choice.

It is your choice. But we will definitely disagree that turning them off doesn’t affect how safe you are. Lane keep makes you safer and definitely is safer for the people around you.

I understand some people don’t like the nannies. But kinda like an uncomfortable seat belt, there is no arguing the safety data. You can also choose not to wear your seat belt. But it won’t stop me from recommending you do.

I can also choose to speed (and sometimes do), but I will also admit that choice makes me less safe.

 

[jasdf2345]

Probably because some of us actually enjoy driving. I'm beginning to think that they should NOT have called this car a mustang. My bad for wanting a fun-to-drive EV. Apparently I'm vastly outnumbered and driving a lane-assisted refrigerator sounds more appealing. Crap like this makes me consider re-joining the "NEVER EV / Fun ICE Cars Forever Crew". I must be in the twilight zone. Yikes.

how do the safety features take away from the joy of driving the mach-e? Further, you know these features are on ICE vehicles as well, in fact, on pretty much all new ones bought these days?

 

[RickMachE]

I too love my unbridled animations but…..
I’m gonna say it.

I drive A LOT of rental cars. Pretty much all 2021 and newer. All makes. All models. I can’t think of a single one that has had the speedometer in the very center. Most cars these days all have an info screen in the center. It shows what song is on. The tire pressures. The trip meters. The fuel efficiencies. Hell, I’m pretty sure my 2010 F-150 had an offset speedometer.
All the indignation over an offset speedometer (when it’s ubiquitous across the entire industry) sounds like a bunch of spoiled Boomers wanting their ‘74 Mustang back the way is was.

Getting off my soapbox and ready for my hate mail.
(Queue everyone providing examples of cars I haven’t driven in the last few years…)

So, to be clear, if Ford moves it back to the center, you will trade your car in?

 

[azerik]

What I’m actually scratching my head about is why so many people want to turn off safety features (lane keep assist) in order to make the speedometer more aesthetically pleasing.

My lane keep is off because it constantly vibrates. Our streets have lines all over them and the assist seems to like to tell me every time. I don’t need lane keep when not in the freeway. Our streets are far from a straight line, more like paved by drunkards and the maps created off that. It’s not off so it looks pretty for me, it’s an annoying feature 80% of my drive.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

But the fact remains, the only way to have the speedometer in the center is to turn off safety features (lane keep) and turn off updates (which will provide future safety features).

Not true. Lane-keeping does not work on the majority of our roads. Nor does lane centering. I'm simply making the switches agree with the condition of the feature. By the time lane keeping assist reacts you're already off the road in the lava fields in a BEV that is looking at a huge repair bill and could easily be totaled.

It's also rather premature to declare that any future update will be safety-related. https://github.com/elmedico27/fordpowerup has nearly the entirety of PowerUps listed for the mach-e. Find one that provided safety features, or even enhanced safety in any manner other than accidentally.

I don’t think people should turn off lane keep assist.

Most of the time these days I'm driving a 2006 Toyota Tacoma. It has no lane keeping, no lane centering, and it has no adaptive cruise control. It barely has an FM radio for heaven's sake. The MME in full manual drive mode is every bit as safe as a 17-year-old weather-beaten, mid-sized pickup truck, probably more so. If you or Ford want me to keep lane keep assist on, come out here and make a multi-billion dollar donation to both the State and County of Hawaii to get our roads brought up to arbitrary mainland standards so it'll actually function as intended

 

[Mach1E]

Not true. Lane-keeping does not work on the majority of our roads. Nor does lane centering. I'm simply making the switches agree with the condition of the feature. By the time lane keeping assist reacts you're already off the road in the lava fields in a BEV that is looking at a huge repair bill and could easily be totaled.

It's also rather premature to declare that any future update will be safety-related. https://github.com/elmedico27/fordpowerup has nearly the entirety of PowerUps listed for the mach-e. Find one that provided safety features, or even enhanced safety in any manner other than accidentally.

Most of the time these days I'm driving a 2006 Toyota Tacoma. It has no lane keeping, no lane centering, and it has no adaptive cruise control. It barely has an FM radio for heaven's sake. The MME in full manual drive mode is every bit as safe as a 17-year-old weather-beaten, mid-sized pickup truck, probably more so. If you or Ford want me to keep lane keep assist on, come out here and make a multi-billion dollar donation to both the State and County of Hawaii to get our roads brought up to arbitrary mainland standards so it'll actually function as intended

I’ll concede the fact that lane keep doesn’t always work.

But it’s still a safety feature that does make your car more safe in certain situations. I hope people aren’t choosing between that and speedometer placement.

And if they are, that may be a reason why Ford moved it so that turning it off doesn’t change the look.

 

[DevSecOps]

My lane keep is off because it constantly vibrates

Some people might like things that constantly vibrate ?

 

[Old_Norm]

A lot of people don’t have BlueCruise of any flavor as

What I don’t get is why so many on this forum are bent out of shape over some people turning off auto updates so that they can still have the option of the original speed display while they actually drive their cars.

Imagine if I came into the home that you paid for and painted all of your walls shit brown then I said, "hardy har har just live with it. My walls are shit brown so yours have to be shit brown also".

That's exactly what you're saying to me.

After that post Im saying to you, you need help. You've lost all sense of proportion. BTW, you do not own the software in the Mache E you paid for. smh

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

After that post Im saying to you, you need help. You've lost all sense of proportion.

Back at you.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

I hope people aren’t choosing between that and speedometer placement

it’s their prerogative. It’s no worse than than an awful lot of cars on the road. Are the folks who are complaining about disabling lane centering going after all the other non Mach-es on the road? Start with a late model Raptor and see how far that gets you.

Just why should someone have to look at a car icon that tells them nothing,, or in my case tells me lane centering is off (Duh, and it will stay the way)? Or are we at the point we not only want people to obey traffic laws (but only the ones we want them to follow) but now we are going to mandate exactly how they obey the various traffic laws? Compliance is no longer good enough, now we’re going for compliance in the manner we want them to comply?

If people like the changes, great! Move forward with the updates. I’m sure BC 1.3 will be better than 1.0 or 1.2, though I have no experience with either. Others simply don’t care for the IPC change or aren’t interested in 1.3 at all. I personally have no reason for getting any of these updates beyond Ford pushing them to my car — there are zero BlueCruise roads here and never will be plus mme DCFC is about as common on this rock as in North Dakota. If I could allocate my spot in this OTA delivery lineup, I would.

 

[Mach1E]

it’s their prerogative. It’s no worse than than an awful lot of cars on the road. Are the folks who are complaining about disabling lane centering going after all the other non Mach-es on the road? Start with a late model Raptor and see how far that gets you.

Just why should someone have to look at a car icon that tells them nothing,, or in my case tells me lane centering is off (Duh, and it will stay the way)? Or are we at the point we not only want people to obey traffic laws (but only the ones we want them to follow) but now we are going to mandate exactly how they obey the various traffic laws? Compliance is no longer good enough, now we’re going for compliance in the manner we want them to comply?

If people like the changes, great! Move forward with the updates. I’m sure BC 1.3 will be better than 1.0 or 1.2, though I have no experience with either. Others simply don’t care for the IPC change or aren’t interested in 1.3 at all. I personally have no reason for getting any of these updates beyond Ford pushing them to my car — there are zero BlueCruise roads here and never will be plus mme DCFC is about as common on this rock as in North Dakota. If I could allocate my spot in this OTA delivery lineup, I would.

I’m not trying to force people to do anything.

Just pointing out what should be obvious- keeping lane centering on makes your car safer.

In this situation, I choose safety over cosmetics. Clearly others here care enough about this issue to pick the latter.

To be clear, on a 10 point scale of safety concerns though, I maybe rate this a 2 or 3.

On my last car, it didn’t have lane keep assist, just lane departure warning. “Beep beep” every time you cross a line without a turn signal on. Annoying a heck. I kept it off…… until I read a story on the forum where it saved another forum members life.

I lived with the “beep beep.”

Similar reason I attach the kill switch every time I boat now. Also annoying, but it beats getting run over by your boat if you get thrown out.

All in all, the likelihood of something happening is super low. But after reading a horror story or two…… I turn all the safety crap back on. Even though it’s annoying.

It may sound like I’m passionate about the subject because of the points I’m making. Definitely not though, also a 2 or 3 on the 10 scale.

 

[jamelski]

for those with 6.8 ?.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

I’m not trying to force people to do anything.

Just pointing out what should be obvious- keeping lane centering on makes your car safer.

In this situation, I choose safety over cosmetics. Clearly others here care enough about this issue to pick the latter.

To be clear, on a 10 point scale of safety concerns though, I maybe rate this a 2 or 3.

On my last car, it didn’t have lane keep assist, just lane departure warning. “Beep beep” every time you cross a line without a turn signal on. Annoying a heck. I kept it off…… until I read a story on the forum where it saved another forum members life.

I lived with the “beep beep.”

Similar reason I attach the kill switch every time I boat now. Also annoying, but it beats getting run over by your boat if you get thrown out.

All in all, the likelihood of something happening is super low. But after reading a horror story or two…… I turn all the safety crap back on. Even though it’s annoying.

It may sound like I’m passionate about the subject because of the points I’m making. Definitely not though, also a 2 or 3 on the 10 scale.

Honestly, if they swapped the speed and car icon I’d not care (much). As I mentioned ages ago before we careened off into the lava fields, the speed is obscured for me in the current configuration. ACC works only in certain areas, so I’d rather have the speed front and center.

As for turning auto-updates off, I’d have to turn them on before I could do that. Auto-updates have been off for over a year due to issues with an update ages ago.

 

[metalpro2021]

Interesting remark in this thread that all 'recent' cars have moved the speed indicator to the corner of the screen. Might this be because of regulations that if you use driver steering aids, these indicators HAVE TO BE centre stage/cantered (or otherwise unavoidable visible without turning your head)? It might be that simple..... And one might say: "I do not use those driving aids to start with" Ford would counter argue: 1. We make the car and a customizable driver screen is not part of what you bought 2. We are not going to have two screen layouts: one for 'near self driving' and one for 'having fun'. And I guess the latter have been discussed within the product development group.

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