Honest Australian Government Ad on EV's Parody

[Kamuelaflyer]

That's because of all the kangaroos on Hawaii ?

We have Wallabies. Does that count? No really, we do.

https://www.hawaiimagazine.com/someone-captured-video-of-the-rare-kalihi-valley-wallaby/

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[DaMeatMan]

So again... where do all these emissions go exactly that makes you soo certain they have zero impact on the environment and human health? Don't avoid the question.

Yet declining sales and declining market share seen in the real world seems to indicate otherwise. You still haven't addressed how it is exactly that Tesla went from a tiny little nothing silicone valley startup to a GIANT that is now worth more than every American automobile company (combined) in just a single decade! News flash, traditional auto has Blockbuster written all over it, and they are well aware of this fact which is why they are bow going all in. Even going so far as to take their most powerful and sacred brands like Mustang to lead that charge.

I'm sorry but are we talking about energy storage, or as automobiles here??

When you buy a car your buying a product that takes you from A to B, as well as all the perks and tech that you can stuff into that package that makes the experience more enjoyable. That tech is composed of many different technologies.

With that said, we are talking about cars here that are designed for the sole purpose of moving you about, and are not designed with their sole purpose being energy storage containers like a jerry can of gas.

In that regard electric cars have:
- superior acceleration (they are the fastest production cars available with ordinary family haulers absolutely destroying exotic fossil cars costing 2 or 3 times more
- superior torque available at any RPM
- superior efficiency
- superior ride comfort, in the sense that it's just very smooth and you don't have any engine vibration (even when the vehicle is 10 years old), and very smooth acceleration without jerky gear hunting.
- quiter and more enjoyable to the 90% that aren't petrol heads and actually enjoy a quite cabin
- easier to operate
- less overall cost and maintenance over the life of the vehicle

In terms of energy density, we have already hit the tipping point where energy density improvements are now more "nice to have" rather than absolute necessities. BEV vehicles already go 300+ miles of range which is already at parity with consumer expectations. More importantly we are achieving that while being TWICE AS HEAVY, which is still a moot point because the car (the finished product as a whole) already goes the distance that is expected by the consumer and at the end of the day that is the primary function of the vehicle. Any improvements in energy density will just continue to push us that much further in every metric that actually matters to a consumer, like efficiency through reduced weight and added range.

Exactly my point, it's superior in the way that actually matters in terms of a cars ACTUAL FUNCTION (to move you about), rather than being an energy storage container. In that regard, ICE will never be able to touch the superior drive characteristics offered by electrified locomotion.

 

[ARK]

My contribution to this discussion would be that while I think the green transition is important, @69Mach390 raises some good points about the necessity of Australia pumping money into EV incentives. They really are sparsely populated and their big cities are all coastal which I believe generally lessens air pollution.

It’s not that they shouldn’t put money towards the green economy but maybe EV incentives aren’t the best use of that money for them. Can’t say I know all the facts, but it certainly is possible that Australian cities don’t have as much of a need for an EV fleet as say diesel-choked European cities do.

California has sort of a similar issue with its high-speed bullet train which is now projected to cost an insane $100 billion. Even if California is committed to spending that amount on green projects, that bullet train seems to offer fantastically poor bang for our buck.

Given how big smog is a problem in the LA basin and the Central Valley, you’d think California would be doing more to support EVs but instead we are going to spend a stupendous amount of money on a marginal train that won’t even be that quick for its route because the politicians made it meander through the whole state to hit all important constituencies but here we are.

 

[AllenXS]

We have Wallabies. Does that count? No really, we do.

https://www.hawaiimagazine.com/someone-captured-video-of-the-rare-kalihi-valley-wallaby/

Wow. Australia could be a suburb of Hawaii.

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