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Kinda bull that my order number is 23XXX and I too just got a build date, but its 8/23, later than the above posters. I have a GTPE loaded as well. Still happy to get the email, but why is mine two weeks later despite having half the order number?
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Kinda bull that my order number is 23XXX and I too just got a build date, but its 8/23, later than the above posters. I have a GTPE loaded as well. Still happy to get the email, but why is mine two weeks later despite having half the order number?
 

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GTPE ordered on 4/28/21
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Order # 1079xxx

No build date yet.

Dang, has Ford failed to notice that I am checking the site every 5 minutes? ???
 
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Kinda bull that my order number is 23XXX and I too just got a build date, but its 8/23, later than the above posters. I have a GTPE loaded as well. Still happy to get the email, but why is mine two weeks later despite having half the order number?
Because the pre-order numbers themselves are apparently not the scheduling factor. Not sure what is.
 

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I'd be willing to bet with the GT and, particularly the GTPE, that it is going to factor in some kind of dealer and regional allocation system.

I'm in Louisiana. According to our tracker here, there are a total of 3 MME ordered in LA. My dealer told me that they had exactly 1 allocation for a GTPE and it was mine.
 


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I'd be willing to bet with the GT and, particularly the GTPE, that it is going to factor in some kind of dealer and regional allocation system.

I'm in Louisiana. According to our tracker here, there are a total of 3 MME ordered in LA. My dealer told me that had exactly 1 allocation for a GTPE and it was mine.
That is the only scenario that makes sense se to me. I think you nailed it.
 

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Kinda bull that my order number is 23XXX and I too just got a build date, but its 8/23, later than the above posters. I have a GTPE loaded as well. Still happy to get the email, but why is mine two weeks later despite having half the order number?
When did you reserve? My build date is Aug 9 for GTPE. Reserved Nov 26, 2019
 

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Glad to see people getting build dates again. My reservation number is still a little higher than any I have seen with a build date, so I am guessing that mine will be another month after the most recent (Aug. 29) batch. At least I hope so. ?
 

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Strange then, must really be a regional thing. For what it's worth, my order number is 10021xxx and I'm PNW. I had some issues during ordering so couldn't finalize the order till a week into May.

But hey we've waited 2 years right, what's another few weeks.
 

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Got my email today for my GT Performance Edition Mach-E.

Reserved GT Mach-E: 12/31/2019
Order #: 10031xxx
Order date: 04/27/2021
Build date: week of 08/15/2021

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I'd be willing to bet with the GT and, particularly the GTPE, that it is going to factor in some kind of dealer and regional allocation system.
If true, that threatens to eventually render the online ordering process a complete farce / failure before it even has a chance to really get off the ground. I say this because it leaves the system wide open to be gamed. The third party auto deal broker business is taking off right now, and these folks are nothing if not cunning/clever. My intuition tells me that they'll figure out where the pockets of high demand and excess supply are and begin to monetize that information just like they do today with vehicles not being sold via manufacturer-managed online ordering systems.

I'm in Louisiana. According to our tracker here, there are a total of 3 MME ordered in LA. My dealer told me that they had exactly 1 allocation for a GTPE and it was mine.
If the dealer allocation model is genuinely still in place - and particularly if, for example, legacy regulatory forces are responsible for that - then I worry a bit for traditional automakers over the long term. The fact that the online buying process still requires price negotiation with the dealership is already one strike. One can read through the top fifty threads of the ordering forum at any given time to see how this is presenting challenges. If it turns out that there's also no central "first come / first served" cue for orders, then that's another big strike.
 

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Oh I've no doubt that such an antiquated model is holding the manufacturers back. But I also have no doubt that it is the way things actually are, at least for the time being.

Limited production and high demand vehicles are absolutely done on allocation. Try to go buy a C8 from a podunk corvette dealer. They can't get them. You have to hit up the big volume dealers because they have allocation. Same with the Shelby GT500. Dealer allocation is absolutely limited. You can't buy one from your corner dealer if they don't have the ability to order one.

I have no doubt that the GTPE is allocation limited. My dealer wouldn't have mentioned an allocation if that weren't the case. The GT may or may not be but I'd bet that it is as well. Ford is going to sell every single one that they make so that really isn't an issue on their part. If it weren't for allocations, my Louisiana dealer wouldn't get any and I'd be driving to Florida or Texas to pick up my car instead.

if some nefarious group figures out how to exploit this allocation system, good luck to them. I don't believe they've sorted it out on any of the other LE vehicles (C8, GT500, GT, etc.) so I'm holding out hope that us regular consumers are being given a fair shake.
 

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If it turns out that there's also no central "first come / first served" cue for orders, then that's another big strike.
I think this is a first come/first served model, actually. My dealer had 1 allocation. I was the first person to get in line for it. So it is mine.

Why should 99+% of the GT/GTPEs go to high volume markets? What is the issue with my dinky dealer in south Louisiana getting 1 allocation? As it stands, more than 90% of the allocations are going to go to the high volume markets. It's not like they're splitting them up evenly amongst the regions.
 

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Limited production and high demand vehicles are absolutely done on allocation.
That is certainly true and I am not calling that legacy process into question.

In fact, my understanding is that, generally speaking *all* vehicles sold using the traditional model are subject to dealership allocation. It's just that it only becomes visible to the customer when the number of allocations is sufficiently small while demand is high. Naturally, this is typical for any "hyped" enthusiast vehicle like those you mention, but not so much for more pedestrian models that make up the majority of vehicle sales.

I have no doubt that the GTPE is allocation limited. My dealer wouldn't have mentioned an allocation if that weren't the case.
My personal experience with information coming from employees at dealerships - especially those whose income is based on creating desire for what they can actually sell you, and talking you out of what they cannot - is that it is not always accurate.

That said, I am definitely not familiar with any of the specifics in your case, so I am inclined to end the discussion there and assume this is all bonded information for the time being. Certainly don't want to get into a debate on speculation that I have reasonable trust will ultimately be known one way or the other anyway.

If it weren't for allocations, my Louisiana dealer wouldn't get any and I'd be driving to Florida or Texas to pick up my car instead.
Or dealerships would not be intrinsically limited by their geography at all - only by the capacity of the assembly plants. So, if there's suddenly a mad rush on Mach-Es in Louisiana, and reservations come flooding in from that state, well then they'll be allocated that many build slots. I am not saying that's how it works, mind you. I'm just saying that that's how it could work if automakers wanted it to, and crucially, as I alluded to in my first post - if they are allowed to.

if some nefarious group figures out how to exploit this allocation system, good luck to them. I don't believe they've sorted it out on any of the other LE vehicles (C8, GT500, GT, etc.) so I'm holding out hope that us regular consumers are being given a fair shake.
I know for a fact that brokers are part of the process for some high demand German performance vehicles. I don't see why they would be limited to vehicles from any specific manufacturer, but my first hand knowledge does not extend that far.

Nefarious is one name for it, opportunistic is another. The law of unintended consequences can be a bitch. You try to protect one party's interests, and low and behold, you leave those of another parties completely vulnerable.
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