No More Road Trips

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Plugshare app (works on apple car play)or Plugshare.com also I map out my route with "A Better Trip Planner" app or website. It will also give you charger info. However, plugshare seems to be more informative on the actual chargers. And, don't forget Tesla. If you have the adapter, Telsa's "Super Charger Map" (as well as plug share) will let you know which SC you are allowed to use......Handy trick (or hack as this gen says). Set your filter on plug share to 250kw and then it will filter out the Tesla chargers that are not usable. Hope this helps
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What do you use to make that map?
It's just hand-drawn. Downloaded a US map JPG and manually drew the lines from memory in a photo editor. So basically I cheated. :cool:

Since I just do my own route planning for charging stops rather than letting the car or ABRP do it, I get really familiar with the map so it was pretty easy just to hand-draw it from memory. It's not perfect, but pretty close.

Looks like SpaceEVDriver used something though as his looks more precise.
 

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We have taken a number of successful roadtrips of 1,000 to 2,000 miles roundtrip. I’ve found that the battery in our 2021 Premium AWD ER generally outlasts my backside or bladder. I welcome the charging stops. I bought an A2Z adapter and the addition of Tesla superchargers is a game changer. I do give thought to route planning and am a bit irked that Tesla chargers aren’t included in the Ford navigation system. I use ABRP on CarPlay and find it works just fine.
Your never going to satisfy those people who need to feel the need to travel 600 miles in 8 hours with 1 stop to pee for 30 seconds. They have a need to get somewhere in the least amount of time and have a sense of pride in "beating the clock." We all had a father, uncle, or friend like that.

I, on the other hand, actually enjoy the fact that having to charge an EV every 3-4 hours. It gives me the opportunity to take some time to get a refreshment, hit the restroom, buy a meal, and actually enjoy eating it before hitting the road again. If I'm driving 500 miles, I will likely stop twice because at 70mph, that's 7 hours of driving. Each pit stop may be 20 minutes. In 7 hours, there's definitely going to be meal break in there. And after I drink a big coffee or soda with my meal, it's guaranteed that I'm going to have to stop again at least once. Also, if you charge is low when you start charging, 20 minutes will get you most of the way to 80% charge. Hit the road and keep rolling. You don't need 100%.

I drove Teslas for 4 years and the Supercharger network is awesome. Always fast and available. (Only on Thanksgiving did I have to wait for a stall...once.) Before that, I had a Chevy Bolt that had a max of 50kw DCFC. Talk about slow. And back in 2017-2021, DCFC chargers we few and far between. Those were some painful road trips. Now that Ford has access to Superchargers and every other DCFC network, finding a place to conveniently charge is a nothing burger...with the exception of some places with low population and/or few EVs. I never sweat a road trip in my Lightning or MME.
 

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But why do so many Mach E owners complain about slow charging times when so many enjoy the stop to pee, walk, eat, pet the dog, sleep, play games on the screen etc?
 


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But why do so many Mach E owners complain about slow charging times when so many enjoy the stop to pee, walk, eat, pet the dog, sleep, play games on the screen etc?
Because everyone is different. There is no one-size-fits-all for everyone. For automobiles, or most anything else.
 

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Welcome to the dark side. I gave up before I even started - have never once charged on the road. I agree that the electric car is great around town. Road trips are why God gave us gasoline.
Where is the evidence that god gave us gasoline? All I see are oil wells, refineries, and gas stations
 

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Your never going to satisfy those people who need to feel the need to travel 600 miles in 8 hours with 1 stop to pee for 30 seconds. They have a need to get somewhere in the least amount of time and have a sense of pride in "beating the clock." We all had a father, uncle, or friend like that.

I, on the other hand, actually enjoy the fact that having to charge an EV every 3-4 hours. It gives me the opportunity to take some time to get a refreshment, hit the restroom, buy a meal, and actually enjoy eating it before hitting the road again. If I'm driving 500 miles, I will likely stop twice because at 70mph, that's 7 hours of driving. Each pit stop may be 20 minutes. In 7 hours, there's definitely going to be meal break in there. And after I drink a big coffee or soda with my meal, it's guaranteed that I'm going to have to stop again at least once. Also, if you charge is low when you start charging, 20 minutes will get you most of the way to 80% charge. Hit the road and keep rolling. You don't need 100%.

I drove Teslas for 4 years and the Supercharger network is awesome. Always fast and available. (Only on Thanksgiving did I have to wait for a stall...once.) Before that, I had a Chevy Bolt that had a max of 50kw DCFC. Talk about slow. And back in 2017-2021, DCFC chargers we few and far between. Those were some painful road trips. Now that Ford has access to Superchargers and every other DCFC network, finding a place to conveniently charge is a nothing burger...with the exception of some places with low population and/or few EVs. I never sweat a road trip in my Lightning or MME.
It’s like that in the UK for non Tesla charge points,
Amazing. Never queue, never turn up to a faulty charge point, more than enough around, never a better time to own an EV at the moment here in the UK?
 
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There are several aspects of a road trip that are problematic, but the final straw is the unpredictability of charger availability due to faulty chargers, long wait times. This is especially true in areas where there’s very little charger infrastructure to begin with. This adds a level of stress we don’t need. Tesla chargers would likely help that, but not in more rural areas.
 

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Have you looked where Tesla has put up chargers? I’ve been planning a road trip from Austin TX to Taos NM and ther‘a a lot of places that ARBP has me stopping at in rural areas like Post, Plainview TX.
 

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Have you looked where Tesla has put up chargers? I’ve been planning a road trip from Austin TX to Taos NM and ther‘a a lot of places that ARBP has me stopping at in rural areas like Post, Plainview TX.
Just make sure you're not looking for *all* Tesla Superchargers. Many of them (especially on rural routes) are not compatible with CCS cars like the Mach-E (even with adapter).

Be sure to use the filter to remove "Tesla Exclusive" and check only "Open to Other EVs" (Magic Dock) and "Open to NACS Partners" (driver's adapter).

https://www.tesla.com/findus?bounds...n_to_all_evs_superchargers,nacs_superchargers
 

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Have you looked where Tesla has put up chargers? I’ve been planning a road trip from Austin TX to Taos NM and ther‘a a lot of places that ARBP has me stopping at in rural areas like Post, Plainview TX.
ABRP along with plugshare.com make planning so much easier an access to the Tesla SC network is a game changer.
 

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Just make sure you're not looking for *all* Tesla Superchargers. Many of them (especially on rural routes) are not compatible with CCS cars like the Mach-E (even with adapter).

Be sure to use the filter to remove "Tesla Exclusive" and check only "Open to Other EVs" (Magic Dock) and "Open to NACS Partners" (driver's adapter).

https://www.tesla.com/findus?bounds=38.75473741498723,-89.7006591231637,27.001155388888723,-121.3412841231637&filters=open_to_all_evs_superchargers,nacs_superchargers
Yes I do have those set.
 
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The level of tech knowledge and complexity involved in planning trips as evidenced by the posts about Tesla, is problematic. I’m sure it’s fine and fun for some, but not for me at this point in life. I will look at a road trip adding Tesla charging into the mix. Assuming I get my adapter in my lifetime. Ordered in March. But ultimately not that important to me, so not willing to just buy one. And I have no road trips planned anyway.
 

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The level of tech knowledge and complexity involved in planning trips as evidenced by the posts about Tesla, is problematic. I’m sure it’s fine and fun for some, but not for me at this point in life. I will look at a road trip adding Tesla charging into the mix. Assuming I get my adapter in my lifetime. Ordered in March. But ultimately not that important to me, so not willing to just buy one. And I have no road trips planned anyway.
That's perfectly fine. It's absolutely more compromising doing a long road trip in a BEV vs driving an ICE. More planning, limited charging, messy charging, longer time, more fear of things going wrong, etc. It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea.

We enjoy it, as it fits my "plan everything" style. And while we like our Bronco Sport as well (and drive it on some trips where charging is weak or time is short), the Mach-E is more enjoyable on the road (quieter, more bells&whistles, more fun to drive). We've put over 50,000 long road trip miles on it the last 4 years. But that's us. I totally get many others not wanting to deal with the compromises.
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