Values after NACS Conversion, should we be concerned?

[dbsb3233]

I believe the average length people keep a vehicle is around 8 years (average), which means yes, for several years there will be a mix out there. But Blue Book values are based on demand of a vehicle. And dealership trade-ins are based on Blue Book values. I doubt many people will want to buy CCS vehicles once all the new vehicles have switched over to NACS and using the Tesla Supercharger Network is the selling point. And since the only thing on a dealer's mind when they take your vehicle is "How much can we get for this?", I believe it could affect values.

A perfect example; in 2015 I bought a new Lincoln MKZ fully loaded for 54k. Up until my MME, it was the best vehicle I ever owned. I loved that vehicle so much. Loved the style, it drove like a dream. Six months after I got it I checked Blue Book, it had lost 52% of its value, in 6 months! I was blown away. I started doing a little research and turned out nobody wanted it because they considered it a glorified and overpriced Fusion. When I traded it 5 years later, Blue Book was 15k, they gave me 13k in trade. It was still in perfect condition.

I'm still not convinced that the majority of non-Tesla drivers are gonna jump over to using SCs exclusively (or even primarily). Maybe, but I think we'll have to see how it plays out. Personally, I'm expecting to keep using EA as my 1st choice, which actually becomes more viable by having more backup options. EA works fine for us 90% of the time. It's those 10% where having a backup option makes it all more workable.

Plus the SC network has it's downsides too. Almost 40% of the stations are still V2s that won't work for us. Not sure if they'll work on non-Teslas with native NACS ports in the future or not. Also, the short cord on the V3s and the "wrong side" layouts will lead to frustrations. V4s improve that, but again, probably many years before most get replaced.

All that to say that it'll probably remain a mixed bag. Not sure there's a clear singular paradigm that the market will be assuming most EVs in the future will use for DCFC, such that the port type will have a big impact on resale values.

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[jay1122]

I would not worry too much about it. The adapter will be sufficient. Look at the ICE car generation changes for comparison. Big full car upgrade makes previous model year cheaper than the new generation. Small model year changes do not change price noticeably.

What could be possible is the new NACS port is combined with a new model generation design upgrade. Then it will be a lot more impactful. With the way the resale value of MME is going (Hint: the floor), I doubt it will matter much.

 

[Art]

This is not another "OMG my value has dropped so much!" thread. Instead, I was pondering what will happen to the value of our current vehicles once the new NACS vehicles come out next year. Will anyone want to buy a used CCS vehicle knowing they will need to use an adapter everywhere? I've heard companies like EVGo and EA will be making NACS chargers available eventually, but it probably won't be a fast change over, so there will probably be CCS chargers still around for a couple years, but let's face it, NACS will eventually become the standard. I've heard even now some dealerships aren't even taking EVs in trade as they don't want them, they will probably want a CCS EV even less.

Another option I guess could be NACS conversion kits, i.e. swapping the CCS port on the current vehicles to NACS, thereby no longer requiring an adapter. I don't know enough about port to know if it could be swapped.

Anyway, I just thought I would post to see what others are thinking about the topic.

I don't think the fact that your MME doesn't have a NACS port but does have the adapter will make it less valuable. The car will still charge at a Tesla supercharger.

 

[Opa]

I agree that having the Tesla supercharger network as an option can only be a good thing for For’s blue oval network.

i’m happy to have the option, because we have a bank of 10 superchargers at mid city, Huntsville, and the closest EA DCFC is @ 16 miles from our home ? there are a couple other DCFC’s @ dealerships in our city, but can be a bit snobby when you politely ask them to move cars on the lot from their DCFC ?

I wonder however what the pricing structure is going to be for using a Tesla supercharger vs EA/chargePoint/et al? Are they going to have a monthly membership fee like EA does? Of course, I expect Ford’s blue oval network to do all the handshaking for us and it would be a plug-in charge just like at EA.

I apologize ahead of time if this has been discussed in another thread ?

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