Do you prefer use Apple carplay / Android Auto or the built in bluetooth?

[mixduptransistor]

I tried running two Nav apps at the same time this past weekend and it doesn't work. I tried Apple maps, Google maps, Waze, ABRP and built in Nav. As soon as you switch to another, the first one stops.

Given that Carplay doesn't send its turn by turn to Sync to display elsewhere, I'm guessing this is a limitation based on GPS data. With Carplay, and I assume Android Auto, the car feeds GPS coordinates to the phone--the phone doesn't have to rely on its own GPS radios. Ford Sync is probably taking the request to provide GPS to Carplay/Android Auto to mean it should cancel its own nav. That's a little disappointing

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[Cnote]

AA for sure: I use waze faithfully, and frequently podcast addict for longer drives like my commute.

Have you hand an issue where you audio for music or podcasts starts fluctuating in volume? It doesnt skip or stop its just like the connection is poor. I've had this happen a couple of times near my house on my way home or in my garage, but other than that it's been great.

 

[jhalkias]

CarPlay . . . but what I am reading here has me a bit concerned. I want to use Waze when on a road trip for speed traps, but I want to use the native nav for charging. Looks like my only alternative may be using something like ABRP to plan my route, but then will I know if chargers are functioning or open?

@ChasingCoral how did you do this on your trip down South?

 

[SteveUk]

Can you get spotify and amazon music into via sync 4 ? Or is the only way by using carplay or andriod auto?

 

[generaltso]

Have you hand an issue where you audio for music or podcasts starts fluctuating in volume? It doesnt skip or stop its just like the connection is poor. I've had this happen a couple of times near my house on my way home or in my garage, but other than that it's been great.

Do you have the speed adjusting volume enabled?

 

[Accord07]

Given that Carplay doesn't send its turn by turn to Sync to display elsewhere, I'm guessing this is a limitation based on GPS data. With Carplay, and I assume Android Auto, the car feeds GPS coordinates to the phone--the phone doesn't have to rely on its own GPS radios. Ford Sync is probably taking the request to provide GPS to Carplay/Android Auto to mean it should cancel its own nav. That's a little disappointing

That is not how it works. CarPlay and Android Auto are merely "projections" (as in h.264 video interleaved with PCM or AAC audio in wireless CarPlay) with some metadata exchanged, the phones rely on their own GPS receivers. Most of the vehicles in which I have used Android Auto do not even have built-in navigation.

It should come as no surprise that one cannot run navigation on two different devices simultaneously. The instrument cluster can only show turn-by-turn instruction from either one but not both at the same time.

 

[Cnote]

Do you have the speed adjusting volume enabled?

I do...I can turn that off and see if I have the issue again. It's inconsistent but it has happened while sitting in my garage and it's like the connection is steady but the volume continously fluctuates making it sound like it's almost cutting out. I suspect it may be interference from other wifi networks but it doesn't happen often.

 

[mixduptransistor]

That is not how it works. CarPlay and Android Auto are merely "projections" (as in h.264 video interleaved with PCM or AAC audio in wireless CarPlay) with some metadata exchanged, the phones rely on their own GPS receivers. Most of the vehicles in which I have used Android Auto do not even have built-in navigation.

It should come as no surprise that one cannot run navigation on two different devices simultaneously. The instrument cluster can only show turn-by-turn instruction from either one but not both at the same time.

Well, you're wrong here. Carplay is *much* more than just a projection. There's two way audio and also control (touch/buttons). Also, the Carplay spec *requires* GPS and GLONASS for wireless CarPlay. Part of the spec also includes speed information from the car to the phone
https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/722/
https://devstreaming-cdn.apple.com/...722/722_developing_carplay_systems_part_1.pdf

It isn't a given that you couldn't run two different navs at the same time, I used to do it in my GTI with carplay. There's no reason at all that Ford's system couldn't allow the built in nav to operate at the same time as Carplay. It's just a design decision. Not even necessarily the wrong design decision, either

 

[Jako607]

I prefer Android Auto because I can still get turn by turn directions in the guage cluster from Google Maps, while also getting whatsapp messages and better audio quality from Spotify compared to compressed Bluetooth. And when I want to listen to a podcast I just switch to the Pocket Casts app on the Android Auto home screen, so it's all seamless. And if I want to listen to Sirius I can either tap the bottom card to resume it from the car's native Sirius radio or I also can easily open the Sirius app in Android Auto home screen and play stations from there.

 

[milepost1]

i would use android auto, but seems to have issues. connection failures, audio stuttering, and worst of all if connection fails it will not let me disconnect it.

 

[TheStig]

CarPlay is fantastic. Especially as an Apple Music subscriber. I use it 100% of the time.

also, if you weren’t aware, you can trigger Siri by holding the talk button on the steering wheel.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Can you get spotify and amazon music into via sync 4 ? Or is the only way by using carplay or andriod auto?

Yes

CarPlay . . . but what I am reading here has me a bit concerned. I want to use Waze when on a road trip for speed traps, but I want to use the native nav for charging. Looks like my only alternative may be using something like ABRP to plan my route, but then will I know if chargers are functioning or open?

@ChasingCoral how did you do this on your trip down South?

You can run both at the same time. I’m using native Ford navigation with Waze open (not navigating) in the background. You get speed and hazard alerts and can switch to Waze in CarPlay to respond or post. Works great.

 

[methorian]

You can run both at the same time. I’m using native Ford navigation with Waze open (not navigating) in the background. You get speed and hazard alerts and can switch to Waze in CarPlay to respond or post. Works great.

Exactly this for those that really want/need to use Built-In Nav and still get some alerts from Waze. It's only when you attempt to start a route that it kicks one of the other "off".

 

[jhalkias]

Yes


You can run both at the same time. I’m using native Ford navigation with Waze open (not navigating) in the background. You get speed and hazard alerts and can switch to Waze in CarPlay to respond or post. Works great.

PERFECT!

 

[ChasingCoral]

Exactly this for those that really want/need to use Built-In Nav and still get some alerts from Waze. It's only when you attempt to start a route that it kicks one of the other "off".

You can also run both at the same time. However, I find other advantages of just having Waze open (not navigating) are

• you don't have to worry about turning off one voice to avoid two sets of directions
• you don't have to keep your phone screen open, so it doesn't drain the battery so fast

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