engaged vs unbridled

[Illinibird]

The MME has blended braking, so you're using regeneration every time you touch the brake pedal, regardless of the mode you're in. You can get just as much regen with the brakes as you do with 1PD or Unbridled mode. Just slow down early to prevent the friction brake from being needed to stop in time.

I know this from driving my hybrid cars (2 Prius' and a Fusion hybrid) but they don't cause a noticeable slow down (drag) when I release the accelerator like Unbridled does. My regeneration gauge in the Fusion is often at 100%.

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[generaltso]

I know this from driving my hybrid cars (2 Prius' and a Fusion hybrid) but they don't cause a noticeable slow down (drag) when I release the accelerator like Unbridled does. My regeneration gauge in the Fusion is often at 100%.

Correct, you won’t get the same level as regen when lifting off the accelerator. But you can get that same level of regen by gently pressing the brake pedal. It’s all just a matter of preference.

 

[Illinibird]

Correct, you won’t get the same level as regen when lifting off the accelerator. But you can get that same level of regen by gently pressing the brake pedal. It’s all just a matter of preference.

Never thought of it that way. With my hybrids I anticipate a stop and gently press on the brakes while slowing down which regenerates the battery and use its brakes at the end when I want to completely stop. I pay close attenton to always try to get the most regeneration as I can (my wife doesn’t). The MME in Unbridled forces you to do this when you feel that “drag” when releasing the accelerator.

 

[generaltso]

Never thought of it that way. With my hybrids I anticipate a stop and gently press on the brakes while slowing down which regenerates the battery and use its brakes at the end when I want to completely stop. I pay close attenton to always try to get the most regeneration as I can (my wife doesn’t). The MME in Unbridled forces you to do this when you feel that “drag” when releasing the accelerator.

If you’re in Engage mode, you can use the Brake Coach to make sure you’re getting as much regen as you can.

 

[Mirak]

I switched over to Unbridled after using Engaged for a long while. All OPD. I just can’t tell any difference at all. Other than the orange color scheme and loss of brake coach. Acceleration feels the same. Regen braking feels the same. The difference must be very subtle.

 

[Illinibird]

If you’re in Engage mode, you can use the Brake Coach to make sure you’re getting as much regen as you can.

Thanks. Awhile ago I was going to complain that I didn't have the Brake Coach anymore until I found by accident that it is only present in Engaged mode. When I do drive in Engage mode I usually get 100% as long as I see the stop coming far enough away to start gently pushing on the brake pedal and slowing down towards the stop.

 

[Illinibird]

I switched over to Unbridled after using Engaged for a long while. All OPD. I just can’t tell any difference at all. Other than the orange color scheme and loss of brake coach. Acceleration feels the same. Regen braking feels the same. The difference must be very subtle.

Do you use 1 pedal driving? I think you said you do so the difference won't be that noticeable to you. The drag that Unbridled puts on with the regenerative braking when you release the accelerator is much more pronounced than in the other 2 modes (at least it feels that way to me). I don't use 1 pedal driving.

 

[americanflannel]

Isn't it confirmed that the driving mode has nothing to do with acceleration, only regeneration and steering feel correct? (I haven't sought to test - but I really think it changes how the speedometer refreshes... in engaged I think it goes by by 3s or something, and in unbridled I feel like it purposely flashes every 1mph to give the illusion of progress faster...)

 

[macchiaz-o]

Isn't it confirmed that the driving mode has nothing to do with acceleration, only regeneration and steering feel correct? (I haven't sought to test - but I really think it changes how the speedometer refreshes... in engaged I think it goes by by 3s or something, and in unbridled I feel like it purposely flashes every 1mph to give the illusion of progress faster...)

Get up to some fixed speed with unbridled. Change mode to engaged and the vehicle slows down a bit. Switch to whisper and it slows down more.

There is a noticeable difference in accelerator pedal mapping in the three modes with 1PD on. (I don't turn it off but I'd guess there is also a difference while it's off.)

There is no difference in drivetrain/regenerative efficiency between the three modes. Only a difference in pedal ramp mapping for the driver, steering stiffness, and colors, display graphics, and sounds.

 

[Illinibird]

There is no difference in drivetrain/regenerative efficiency between the three modes. Only a difference in pedal ramp mapping for the driver, steering stiffness, and colors, display graphics, and sounds.

I'm not sure I'm understanding exactly what you are saying here but for me, there is a definite difference in the regen system as it turns on and slows the car down a lot more in Unbridled than the other 2 modes when you let off the accelerator. If that is what you're trying to get across (pedal ramp mapping??) then I agree.

 

[macchiaz-o]

I'm not sure I'm understanding exactly what you are saying here but for me, there is a definite difference in the regen system as it turns on and slows the car down a lot more in Unbridled than the other 2 modes when you let off the accelerator. If that is what you're trying to get across (pedal ramp mapping??) then I agree.

In the paragraph you quoted, I was trying to convey that energy efficiency is the same in all user adjustable driving modes on the Mach-E.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

If you’re in Engage mode, you can use the Brake Coach to make sure you’re getting as much regen as you can.

I'm in engage almost exclusively. Brake coach is on. Never once seen it in my vast MME experience (all 8 days).

 

[generaltso]

I'm in engage almost exclusively. Brake coach is on. Never once seen it in my vast MME experience (all 8 days).

Sounds like something's not working right. I see it every time I come to a stop, and it almost always says 100% energy recovered.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Sounds like something's not working right. I see it every time I come to a stop, and it almost always says 100% energy recovered.

Just realized why. Of course I don’t see it, 1pd is on all the time. That would be why.

 

[macchiaz-o]

Just realized why. Of course I don’t see it, 1pd is on all the time. That would be why.

Same, but you should still see it sometimes. Even if you don't use the decelerator pedal it will show up very briefly at the far left side of the display when the car's slowed to about 2 mph. I assume this is from when it briefly switches from regenerative to friction braking.

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