100% charge only 197miles??

[Treehgr]

First, I love this car! Second week of ownership and enjoy every ride in my select RWD with tech pkg. Took our first road trip yesterday and charged to 100% and got 197 miles, not the 230 I expected. Did I miss something in my excitement to own electric, eye Catcher?? Thanks for the advice on this column, too. Learned about Ford options and incentives that saved me $$.

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[JohnnyForensic]

First, I love this car! Second week of ownership and enjoy every ride in my select RWD with tech pkg. Took our first road trip yesterday and charged to 100% and got 197 miles, not the 230 I expected. Did I miss something in my excitement to own electric, eye Catcher?? Thanks for the advice on this column, too. Learned about Ford options and incentives that saved me $$.

To get a LOT of information on this, do a search on the "GOM" or "Guess-O-Meter" here on the forum. You'll find a bunch of posts about this that go into great detail.

TL;DR, here's what to know:

1. Reset your driving history so that the car will forget what it knows about people at the dealership who might have taken it for a fast joyride. It needs to learn YOUR driving, not that of others.

2. It's cold in your ZIP code this morning, and the GOM takes that into account. Cold weather will reduce range.

3. The Ford guesstimate on the range you'll get, unlike some other BEV manufacturers, is VERY conservative as a general rule. Ford would much rather tell you 200 miles and then give you 250 miles than the other way around. There are threads here about how to better determine the actual range you will get, but really, it's going to be more. For example, my MME is rated at 270 miles. The GOM typically shows me 230-250 at full. If I multiply my average consumption rate vs. my battery pack, it's more like 330. I've never driven it to empty (and I don't suggest you do either), but I've easily gotten over 300 with still 15% remaining when I pulled into a charger.

So, don't put too much faith into the GOM, and know that it will generally give you a lower number than what you'll actually achieve, though as you get closer to the empty side of the pack, the remaining range is going to be a lot closer to true than it will be at the full side.

 

[generaltso]

Welcome to the forum. There are dozens of threads with this same complaint. Start with this sticky:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ulate-how-far-your-mach-e-can-really-go.6104/

 

[Treehgr]

First, I love this car! Second week of ownership and enjoy every ride in my select RWD with tech pkg. Took our first road trip yesterday and charged to 100% and got 197 miles, not the 230 I expected. Did I miss something in my excitement to own electric, eye Catcher?? Thanks for the advice on this column, too. Learned about Ford options and incentives that saved me $$.

Me again. Just read through some earlier posts( shoulda done earlier). Will reset trip and continue to enjoy!!

 

[Treehgr]

Thanks for your replies!! Yes, my car was delivered over 200 miles and the salesman had the grins after his joy ride to deliver. He spent over 2 hours setting up and explaining features. Very pleased with start to finish experience with Jamie and Eric at town and country in Pell city, Alabama

 

[SnBGC]

First, I love this car! Second week of ownership and enjoy every ride in my select RWD with tech pkg. Took our first road trip yesterday and charged to 100% and got 197 miles, not the 230 I expected. Did I miss something in my excitement to own electric, eye Catcher?? Thanks for the advice on this column, too. Learned about Ford options and incentives that saved me $$.

Sounds very normal.
Electric vehicle range is highest around town and lowest at interstate speeds. If you just took a road trip then your range estimate will usually be lower than if you were city driving.

My car has the larger battery and range estimate is around 300 miles on a full charge. However, if I take a road trip and then charge to 100% the following day my range estimate will be 250.

Your range estimate sounds reasonable because the car is expecting you to hit the road again today.

 

[TRP]

It's cold out, shrinkage.....................what? that's a thing, right

 

[timbop]

Forget about resetting driving history or even worrying about what the estimated range says. That's correct - the range displayed is an ESTIMATE, and a not very accurate one either. It's referred to as the "guess-o-meter", which should convey how much you should worry about what it says.

 

[littlD]

Thanks for your replies!! Yes, my car was delivered over 200 miles and the salesman had the grins after his joy ride to deliver. He spent over 2 hours setting up and explaining features. Very pleased with start to finish experience with Jamie and Eric at town and country in Pell city, Alabama

Enjoy your new Mach-E.

I'd also encourage you to ignore range estimates.

Focus instead on percentage.

Think about it, it's just how you would watch your gas gauge to know when to get some gas.

When you're ready for your first roadtrip, feel free to reach out to this community of Mach-e owners and (like me) EV enthusiasts who drive a different EV.

It's easier than you think!

 

[Mystic]

Enjoy your new Mach-E.

I'd also encourage you to ignore range estimates.

Focus instead on percentage.

Think about it, it's just how you would watch your gas gauge to know when to get some gas.

When you're ready for your first roadtrip, feel free to reach out to this community of Mach-e owners and (like me) EV enthusiasts who drive a different EV.

It's easier than you think!

There is no difference between percent state of charge and the GOM. If you drive more aggressive or it's colder, they are both going to go down quicker.

 

[connoisseurr]

It's cold out, shrinkage.....................what? that's a thing, right

 

[Vulnox]

It's also worth mentioning, because I often see the range drop in cold framed as some electric vehicle only thing. ICE vehicles have "range" drop in the winter also, usually due to a combination of winter additives to gasoline at the pumps and the sometimes higher consumption due to changing air density in colder weather.

As an example, our main road trip vehicle currently is a '21 F-150 PowerBoost. We have done four trips in the summer that were over 100 miles, and I averaged almost every time 24.3 MPG over the course of the trips. That's with four people, luggage, and a very heavy Lariat trim truck. Last weekend we went on another trip, about 160 miles each way, and my average fuel economy was 22 MPG roughly. Same four passengers, essentially the same luggage, same driving pattern and average speed. I actually expected it to be a bit worse.

But if I take my F-150 combined EPA MPG of 24, which I as noted actually hit, and multiply it by the 30.6 gallon fuel tank, my "range" would be 734 miles. But with the change in fuel economy in the colder weather/gas, it is now 673.

For now, winter weather makes fools of all vehicles. The GOM knows this and is trying to give you a guide, but as others noted, it's best to just drive it and keep it in mind if planning any longer trips, have a couple extra charging stations at least noted in case the range monster from the higher HVAC draw makes an impact, and the sometimes lower battery capacity.

 

[timbop]

There is no difference between percent state of charge and the GOM. If you drive more aggressive or it's colder, they are both going to go down quicker.

That is an incorrect conclusion based on a flawed premise. Yes you will use more electricity as it gets colder, but the GOM OVERESTIMATES the effect of the decreased efficiency. For example, the GOM might say you have 160 miles of range at 100%, but after 100 miles of actual driving you might have 50% of the battery left so the ACTUAL range you can achieve is 200 miles not 160.

Put another way, the GOM tries to GUESS the mi/kwh efficiency but the percentage change reflects the EXACT mi/kwh efficiency achieved.

There absolutely IS a difference.

 

[zvez]

Thanks for your replies!! Yes, my car was delivered over 200 miles and the salesman had the grins after his joy ride to deliver. He spent over 2 hours setting up and explaining features. Very pleased with start to finish experience with Jamie and Eric at town and country in Pell city, Alabama

you'll also notice as the car gets used ot your driving speeds, conditions, temp etc. the GOM will vary on a given charge. I routinely get about 240 on 90% charge for the last six months. I'm averaging around 4.4 m/kwh. Also to get a better idea of usage than GOM, look at what your mi/kwh is averaging on a given drive.

 

[timbop]

It's also worth mentioning, because I often see the range drop in cold framed as some electric vehicle only thing. ICE vehicles have "range" drop in the winter also, usually due to a combination of winter additives to gasoline at the pumps and the sometimes higher consumption due to changing air density in colder weather.

As an example, our main road trip vehicle currently is a '21 F-150 PowerBoost. We have done four trips in the summer that were over 100 miles, and I averaged almost every time 24.3 MPG over the course of the trips. That's with four people, luggage, and a very heavy Lariat trim truck. Last weekend we went on another trip, about 160 miles each way, and my average fuel economy was 22 MPG roughly. Same four passengers, essentially the same luggage, same driving pattern and average speed. I actually expected it to be a bit worse.

But if I take my F-150 combined EPA MPG of 24, which I as noted actually hit, and multiply it by the 30.6 gallon fuel tank, my "range" would be 734 miles. But with the change in fuel economy in the colder weather/gas, it is now 673.

For now, winter weather makes fools of all vehicles. The GOM knows this and is trying to give you a guide, but as others noted, it's best to just drive it and keep it in mind if planning any longer trips, have a couple extra charging stations at least noted in case the range monster from the higher HVAC draw makes an impact, and the sometimes lower battery capacity.

Yup, ICE and BEV are both effected by temperature, but you just notice it more in a BEV. One reason is that the liquid electrolytes congeal more and aren't as efficient, but there are 2 other factors: cabin heating and overall efficiency. Since ICE engines waste 60% or more of their energy as heat anyway, cabin heating is "free" whereas a BEV has to expend additional energy to heat the cabin. The other consequence of ICE engines only being 35% to 40% efficient is when that drops by 25% (to 26% to 30% efficient) you only see a net decrease of around 10%. BEV's are over 95% efficient, so a 25% decrease is easily noticed.

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