What are your Electric Rates

[Motomax]

I'm just going to have to say that sounds odd, given that the daytime peak rates posted here from around california are 3 times the off-peak nighttime rates. If the utilities have so much that they can't give away, how are they able to justify such hefty premiums? Are they simply gouging the few customers without solar? As for nighttime when the poor utilities have to generate their own electricity to subsidize those awful solar and BEV customers , why are those rates so much more reasonable?

I’m not sure what rates you’re referring to, I have yet to see a Noon peak window. Peak pricing is usually somewhere between 4-9pm around here. The times where everyone gets home from work and solar goes down and demand goes up. On hot summer days demand skyrockets and sometimes hits the grids max capacity (peak pricing is also about reducing demand not just cost). California imports a decent chunk of their electricity to cover that demand which increases cost that can’t get passed on to solar customers (they do have time of use for solar but if your credit bank is big enough it doesn’t matter). At night their limited number of power plants (thanks to regulations) can easily cover the low demand at a low feed rate so price goes back down.
All this info is readily available online and you can even see demand numbers and import numbers.
Anyways, Im not here to defend power companies, I got my solar in before the new regs come out because I know the power companies are going against solar. the original post was in reference to day time solar doing nothing to reduce evening grid loads, which is 100% true without energy storage.

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[CA Dave]

Our city has its own power here in CA (not PGE). off peak (anytime outside of 5pm to 9pm) its $0.13/kwh during peak it $0.50... no need for air conditioning here so just avoid dishwasher and washing machine during those times.

 

[DRuth086]

Paying 21 cents per KwH here in Rhode Island with no variable pricing.

 

[nhammerschmidt]

I am around $0.143 per KWh. We have a horrible local utility here.

 

[wmaney]

City of Roseville Ca (which also applies to parts of Granite Bay where I live):

Summary of Residential Energy Prices

Effective January 1, 2022

Residential

Basic Service Charge (per meter, per month)
$28.00


Energy Charge ($/kWh)

Tier 1- up to 500 kWh/month$0.0959

Tier 2- greater than 500 kWh/month$0.1452

Renewable Energy Surcharge ($/kWh) $0.0056

Greenhouse Gas Surcharge ($/kWh) $0.0002

Hydroelectric Adjustment ($/kWh) (1) $0.00507

State Energy Surcharge ($/kWh) $0.00030

So some of this I think you opt into (like the renewable Energy surcharge. But if you do everything in the list - its 0.10707 per kWh - which is close to 11 cents per kWh. More once you go above 500 kWh per month in use. Then it starts to be 0.15637 cents per kWh - ie a little over 15 1/2 cents per kWh.

https://www.roseville.ca.us/government/departments/electric_utility/residential/rates

 

[Deleted member 3569]

Duke Energy (FL):
Basic charge for RS-1/month: $12.45
Off Peak hrs charging for EV gets $10 off/month (requires signing up).
You need to grant permission for a third party Duke contractor to gain access to your fordPass account for monitoring purposes; two grace opt outs in every six month period. Week ends & holidays are Off Peak.
Dec thru Feb - 7.623ȼ/kWh for first 1,000kWh thereafter 8.773ȼ/kWh
Mar thru Nov - 6.587ȼ/kWh for first 1,000 kWh thereafter 7.474ȼ/kWh.

 

[sborsch]

Just curious, what kind of electric rates do you have? Where I live, if you sign up for Electric Vehicle Rate (value charging) the local power company gives you 400kw free per month (12am-6am), 4 cents per kw 12am-6am over 400kw. Off peak 7.3 cents per kw (6am-1pm), and peak hours 1pm-9pm 13 cents per kw. From reading this forum, many seemed concerned with power bills.

Four years ago my wife and I moved from Minnesota to Orange County, CA to be near our kids and get away from months of snow and cold each year (we were happily born and raised in MN as were our kids).

Besides having numerous surprises after getting out here — like how fast real estate prices rise! — we were stunned to discover that our just under $ .12 per kWh Minnesota rate with Xcel Energy would be laughingly low compared to California SDGE, SoCal Edison or PG&E rates!

Our current SoCal Edison’s best plan (for those of us with solar) is called “TOU-D-Prime” and my 2022 rates are:

October to May (8 months)
8am - 4pm = $ .21 per kWh
4pm - 9pm = $ .50 per kWh
9pm - 8am = $ .21 per kWh

June to September (4 months)
8am - 4pm = $ .22 per kWh
4pm - 9pm = $ .54 per kWh
9pm - 8am = $ .22 per kWh

No free kWh for us though. But if I am disciplined enough to charge between 9:01pm to the next day’s 3:59pm at $ .21 or $ .22 per kWh for 70 kWh (the MME PE’s 88 kWh usable battery capacity at ~80%) then I sure won’t complain vs. paying gas prices!

 

[sborsch]

You sure you are on an EV plan??

Might be an Orange County thing. In San Diego (the true SoCal) Our rates are no where close to that. I only pay 9 cents per kWh 0:00-07:00 and then on Sat from 0:00-14:00 and Sun 0:00-14:00 at 9 cents per kWh. Our peak times though are from 4-9 at some ungodly rate, think its like .68kWh. I'm on the EVTOU5-Residential plan.

$0.55919kWh on Peak time.

Yep…it’s an Orange County thing which, by the way, is a county right smack dab in the middle of Southern California geography with a perfect climate and some of the best people and beaches. Just sayin’ ….

Used to live in an SDGE area and you’re absolutely right about the 9 cents per kWh plan for EV drivers. One of my old neighbors was on that plan for both his Tesla M3 and his wife’s MX. It saved them a bundle.

Damn…I sure wish SoCal Edison had that kind of EV plan. Of course, SDGE’s “summer” is one month longer than ours, but our rates still aren’t as good as yours are for EVs.

 

[1969Camaro]

Off peak 5.2 cents/KW

 

[jojomontag]

Reliant Truly Free Nights

Free electricity from 8pm to 6am!

About 13 cents per kWh during the day (depends on thresholds).

 

[JamesStew71]

With that in mind, we've finalized an increase to our G&T rate from $0.059 cents per kWh to $0.066 per kWh. This adjustment will result in an approximate $10-per-month increase for an average bill of 1,500 kWh: This rate adjustment will take effect beginning with bills distributed. / is what our rip op charges a little lower off peak / 30 miles east of san antonio

 

[Triggerhappy007]

Reliant Truly Free Nights

Free electricity from 8pm to 6am!

About 13 cents per kWh during the day (depends on thresholds).

Are you in a grandfathered plan? It's showing 25 cents during the day:

https://www.reliant.com/files/090175188326f194.pdf

What does your EFL say?

 

[JSeis]

$.0634 per KWh flat rate. SW Wa coast. BPA power from Bonneville though power trading means it can be from anywhere in western grid.

 

[jojomontag]

Are you in a grandfathered plan? It's showing 25 cents during the day:

https://www.reliant.com/files/090175188326f194.pdf

What does your EFL say?

The daytime rate technically says 21 cents, but it goes down as I exceed certain thresholds.

I undershot the average. The EFL says average of 14.7 cents, but I have had some bills show 13... I use a ton at night, which lowers the average a lot. On my last bill, 73% of my usage was during the free period.

 

[Triggerhappy007]

The daytime rate technically says 21 cents, but it goes down as I exceed certain thresholds.

I undershot the average. The EFL says average of 14.7 cents, but I have had some bills show 13... I use a ton at night, which lowers the average a lot. On my last bill, 73% of my usage was during the free period.

Plus 4 cents for the Oncor delivery charges, that's why I said 25.

How much was your total bill and how many kWh did you use?

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