Would you go all electric vehicles? What would be your other EV?

[SolarAB]

I will never buy a Chinese EV. Not to derail, but there are a lot of reasons not to.

But the fact they are the leaders in EV technology is a big reason to consider them.

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[bruceski88]

Some context:

1. We traded in a Tesla M3 for MME GTPE and a Prius 4T for an Audi SQ5

2. We (clearly) love the MME GT PE and are planning to keep it until its last day.

3. However, we feel like we made a slight mistake getting the Audi SQ5. It’s a very low mile fully loaded refreshed version and for the most part it’s a great car. But the turbo lag / downshifts, lack of quick maneuverability, and the atrocious fuel economy (our bars are set high given that we only drove a hybrid and EV sedan for over a decade) are getting a little annoying. Love the build. Love the features. Love the sound system. Love the highway comfort when we are cruising. Hate driving it in the city.

Question:

- What would you do in our situation? Get another hybrid plug in like a Tucson / Sportage, or a hybrid like Venza / RAV4

OR

- Keep the Audi and use it sparingly. The issue here is that if we do so, it’s like we are down to one car unless we are going on long trips (90% of our drives are city) and the price of this gas car will keep depreciating wouldn’t it?

OR

- Go fully electric and buy XXX as the second SUV. The only thing here is that my spouse is very concerned going fully electric household as she feels like fires may force us to evacuate in rare circumstances and gas is the safest. I kind of agree with her but I also kind of don’t back to the point above - if we just keep the Audi it’s almost like we have one active car and one inactive car for zombie attacks lol

what would you do?

Wait for next round of improved BEVs in 2025.

 

[Mach1E]

But the fact they are the leaders in EV technology is a big reason to consider them.

Define “leaders.”

Volume, quality, cutting edge technology?

Would love to see a JD power 3 year dependability study on Chinese brand vehicles and how they compare.

 

[MacherAWD]

Wasnt thinking about an EV for our 2nd car but today Mass passed a used EV rebate. So that with the Federal is now $7500 off a used if you qualify. I found a bunch of Bolts for $18k, so might go get one tonight, $10.5k for a Bolt with a new battery, why not....

 

[BigMach-E]

Define “leaders.”

Volume, quality, cutting edge technology?

Would love to see a JD power 3 year dependability study on Chinese brand vehicles and how they compare.

Also, let’s keep in mind the only Chinese brand right now in the US that has any meaningful service footprint would be Volvo.

Something goes wrong with your car, how does it get fixed?

Vinfast and Fisker have this issue in the states. It’s a reason not to buy.

 

[BigMach-E]

Wasnt thinking about an EV for our 2nd car but today Mass passed a used EV rebate. So that with the Federal is now $7500 off a used if you qualify. I found a bunch of Bolts for $18k, so might go get one tonight, $10.5k for a Bolt with a new battery, why not....

Can you link?

 

[MacherAWD]

Can you link?

The mass rebate or the dealer with a bunch of Bolts for $18k?

 

[BigMach-E]

The mass rebate or the dealer with a bunch of Bolts for $18k?

Mass rebate. Just curious.

 

[MacherAWD]

Mass rebate. Just curious.

https://mor-ev.org/cars-app#used

A 2018 Bolt with a new battery for $10.5k just seems too good to pass up. It will be our 2nd car with limited use. But now when leaving a car at the airport, or things like that we let the Bolt get dinged up, not the MME. I am not seeing a downside?

 

[Mach1E]

Also, let’s keep in mind the only Chinese brand right now in the US that has any meaningful service footprint would be Volvo.

Something goes wrong with your car, how does it get fixed?

Vinfast and Fisker have this issue in the states. It’s a reason not to buy.

Was thinking more about the Chinese owned, Chinese designed and chinese built cars…….. are they any good?

 

[SolarAB]

Also, let’s keep in mind the only Chinese brand right now in the US that has any meaningful service footprint would be Volvo.

Something goes wrong with your car, how does it get fixed?

Vinfast and Fisker have this issue in the states. It’s a reason not to buy.

Yes, Volvo is currently the only Chinese car we can get.

 

[BigMach-E]

Was thinking more about the Chinese owned, Chinese designed and chinese built cars…….. are they any good?

Reports are that they have come a very long way in the past few years. You would be surprised.

 

[Mach1E]

Reports are that they have come a very long way in the past few years. You would be surprised.

I would be surprised if any of the reports came from a true 3rd party not influenced by the Chinese government.

 

[BigMach-E]

I would be surprised if any of the reports came from a true 3rd party not influenced by the Chinese government.

Hey, I wouldn’t buy one, but it looks like they are making progress.

 

[thekat03]

I think the Nio cars look promising, from what I've seen of them on TeslaBjorn's YouTube videos. As he is in Norway, and generally prefers/recommends Tesla, I think he is unlikely to be influenced by the Chinese government.

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