Mid-February for FE?

[Ajpeo3]

I find it funny that at my dealer, one of the biggest in Canada, he told me demo end november and that there's a good chance my car would be sometime in January. So my sales guy is pretty informed compared to some of the ones mentioned here.

I'm from Canada as well. I ordered in September and sales guy said the same thing Ford is taking orders for a January delivery. I take that with a grain of salt but my fingers are definitely crossed.

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[dbsb3233]

Well OKTB needs to occur before MP2. If MP2 is scheduled to start late October then MP1 and the OKTB review needs to be completed by then. Having various models come down the line during MP1 is really a necessity not an issue since QC wouldn't only want a single flavor of one model even if the production issues didn't exist. In this regard, FEs are simply Premium AWD with Extended Range Batteries. There are seven variations (2 Select, 1 CA Route 1, and 4 Premiums), and FCTPs could be any of them (it's a category not a model).

My guess is that FCTPs will be part of MP1.

Yes, from what we've been told the production run currently underway includes FCTP's, which can include a variety of trims.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

I'm from Canada as well. I ordered in September and sales guy said the same thing Ford is taking orders for a January delivery. I take that with a grain of salt but my fingers are definitely crossed.

Well your sales guy is maybe putting a bit of icing on the cake. I had made a reservation early January and I don't expect a delivery before March or April. You only have ordered in September I imagine you didn't have a reservation.

 

[DBC]

I think my v6 guesstimate is still running fairly true. Remember we learned that of the three options:

1. Ford moves up OKTB to late October/Early November
2. Ford ships FCTP vehicles before OKTB on 23 Nov.
3. Ford ships FCTP at OKTB date and FCTP vehicles arrive late December (pushing FEs to January)

Option 2 is off the table.

You seem to have the schedule down though I'm a little confused by your #1. OKTB occurs before MP2 begins, so if things are reasonably on schedule that would be late October. FE production is part of MP2, the difference being FEs will be the first Premiums with AWD and Extended Range Batteries made.

Assuming FCTPs make up MP1, which is a good assumption, then FCTPs show up in November, FEs show up in December, and the other copies in the first run (MP2) shows up in December or January, just depending on where they get slotted into production.

Of course that assumes the schedule stays reasonably intact and there aren't any retrofits or so forth, which is always a challenge.

 

[highland58]

I think my v6 guesstimate is still running fairly true. Remember we learned that of the three options:

1. Ford moves up OKTB to late October/Early November
2. Ford ships FCTP vehicles before OKTB on 23 Nov.
3. Ford ships FCTP at OKTB date and FCTP vehicles arrive late December (pushing FEs to January)

Option 2 is off the table. IIRC @trutolife27 confirmed they won't ship until OKTB. We can hope for Option 1 but Option 3 is far more likely. Our big hope for 2020 deliveries of Premium customer units is that shipping is much faster than 4 weeks.

If my FE does not arrive until after Jan 1st, I may refuse it and wait until my Premium arrives, and save $2k. I hope that will not be the case. I am willing to pay more for the FE, but I am counting on taking the tax rebate next spring. From what trutolife27 said, FE's are being built now along with the FCTP, so hopefully the Machdrops will get done also and delivered in December. I reserved my Premium on 1/1, converted to order 7/7, so my FE will be built on 11/11 and delivered on 12/12

 

[timbop]

You seem to have the schedule down though I'm a little confused by your #1. OKTB occurs before MP2 begins, so if things are reasonably on schedule that would be late October. FE production is part of MP2, the difference being FEs will be the first Premiums with AWD and Extended Range Batteries made.

Assuming FCTPs make up MP1, which is a good assumption, then FCTPs show up in November, FEs show up in December, and the other copies in the first run (MP2) shows up in December or January, just depending on where they get slotted into production.

Of course that assumes the schedule stays reasonably intact and there aren't any retrofits or so forth, which is always a challenge.

I don't know jack about what MP1 and MP2 mean, but saturday @trutolife27 posted a picture of the first FE ordered by a customer to come off the line.

 

[dbsb3233]

I don't know jack about what MP1 and MP2 mean, but saturday @trutolife27 posted a picture of the first FE ordered by a customer to come off the line.

Yeah, I think the MP1 and MP2 stuff set some faulty assumptions. Probably best just to throw those out, as it seems to conflict with what @trutolife27 more recently told us about multiple trims being built together, as well as customer units and FCTP units.

He also confirmed the expected OKTB date (11/23) hasn't changed (so far anyway), and that no customer or FCTP units leave the plant lots until OKTB. Maybe with luck that will move up some, but it's still the best info we have at this point.

 

[JellyBelly]

If my FE does not arrive until after Jan 1st, I may refuse it and wait until my Premium arrives, and save $2k. I hope that will not be the case. I am willing to pay more for the FE, but I am counting on taking the tax rebate next spring. From what trutolife27 said, FE's are being built now along with the FCTP, so hopefully the Machdrops will get done also and delivered in December. I reserved my Premium on 1/1, converted to order 7/7, so my FE will be built on 11/11 and delivered on 12/12

I am thinking the same - except that my Premium reservation was late May - so I have to think if I can wait until next Sept if I decline the MachDrop

 

[ChasingCoral]

You seem to have the schedule down though I'm a little confused by your #1. OKTB occurs before MP2 begins, so if things are reasonably on schedule that would be late October. FE production is part of MP2, the difference being FEs will be the first Premiums with AWD and Extended Range Batteries made.

Assuming FCTPs make up MP1, which is a good assumption, then FCTPs show up in November, FEs show up in December, and the other copies in the first run (MP2) shows up in December or January, just depending on where they get slotted into production.

Of course that assumes the schedule stays reasonably intact and there aren't any retrofits or so forth, which is always a challenge.

Latest we've seen, MP1 is already happening and is primarily (or solely) FCTP and executive cars. MP2 is due to start 26 October, beginning with the FEs but may have some others mixed in. The only date we've seen for OKTB is 23 November. I hope OKTB will be moved up but indications have been that it will not. It has also been clearly stated by @trutolife27 that no vehicles for sale (includes FCTP) will ship before OKTB. Ready to ship, yes. Ship, no.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I don't know jack about what MP1 and MP2 mean, but saturday @trutolife27 posted a picture of the first FE ordered by a customer to come off the line.

Yes but that first First Edition (no, not redundant) was one of the executive models. @trutolife27 told us that executive orders are being produced along with the FCTPs as part of MP1. Customer orders for all us peons has been stated to begin 26 October (MP2). However, I'm hoping that date and OKTB get moved up. That's only a hope.

 

[agoldman]

Wake me up, when OKTB ends . . .

 

[timbop]

Wake me up, when OKTB ends . . .

Wake me up when my frickin' car is on my dealer's lot!

 

[DBC]

I don't know jack about what MP1 and MP2 mean, but saturday @trutolife27 posted a picture of the first FE ordered by a customer to come off the line.

MP1 (aka Job 1) is the first production run. That is followed by a detailed QC review and the OKTB decision. MP2 (aka Job 2) is the second production run which starts after the detailed QC review and the OKTB decision.

I very much doubt that a regular customer vehicle has come off the line. There are customers and then there are customers. That's not a bad thing unless you want to be something of a guinea pig.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

MP1 (aka Job 1) is the first production run. That is followed by a detailed QC review and the OKTB decision. MP2 (aka Job 2) is the second production run which starts after the detailed QC review and the OKTB decision.

I very much doubt that a regular customer vehicle has come off the line. There are customers and then there are customers. That's not a bad thing unless you want to be something of a guinea pig.

what if I don't want to be a guinea pig but I'm okay with being a hamster? ?

 

[DBC]

Customer orders for all us peons has been stated to begin 26 October (MP2). However, I'm hoping that date and OKTB get moved up. That's only a hope.

Hope over experience, eh? More likely it's moved back, just because that's what happens.

As for being a peon, Ford is just making sure you're happy with the vehicle. In this case being first is not necessarily desirable. You're better off with a problem being resolved on the production line than after. Not being careful with the OKTB review is how you end up recalling all the vehicles you've sold at a later date. (Not mentioning any names ....).

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