Software Feature Suggestion - Hold

[ZuleMME]

For @Ford Motor Company I wanted to suggest a feature I'd like to believe would be easy to implement and quite useful to people. My other car being a Porsche Macan (for the moment at least) has spoiled me with the "Hold" feature for braking. Obviously on the Mach-E we have the option to set auto-hold where the brakes go into hold automatically on every stop. We also have 1 pedal driving which is fabulous in some situations and does roughly the same thing not having to hold the brake.

Despite these things *sometimes* you just want to selectively set a "hold" while stopped (say at drive thru's). In that scenario the best thing we can do for now is go into the menu and turn it on and then later turn it back off. In the Macan there is another option. You're already holding the brake pedal down to be stopped. Simply give it a second push a little further down at this point and the car automatically goes into "hold" just for that stop. It's a fabulous option that should be quite possible with the hardware we have.

That said, perhaps I should be content until you figure out how to get my car farther then 2.1.0 before I ask for things like this.

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[mikeinet]

Do you use 1PD?

I use 1PD... slow to a stop (stopped traffic, red light, etc.) and never touch the brake... so it never activates the "hold"... but then if i'm on a hill or extended stop, ill tap the brake to activate the hold. Seems like same intention?

 

[RickMachE]

Simply activate the E brake, and it will hold the car just fine. Or, shift into Park.

 

[Logal727]

I’m very confused. I have no issue having my car stay stopped when in a drive thru when on 1PD

 

[Accord07]

My other car has a physical button that toggles brake hold on/off, so yes I would prefer not to go two levels down the menu to toggle auto-hold on my MME.

 

[Chuck]

I have auto hold on. Works like you suggest. I'm not sure what you're asking for.

 

[ZuleMME]

I have auto hold on. Works like you suggest. I'm not sure what you're asking for.

A way to not have it auto hold at EVERY stop EVERY time without having to dig through the menu system to disable the feature. A quick double tap on the brake pedal. Boom, hold for that stop... That's how Porsche does it.

Edit: Changed spelling of peddle/pedal, wow I need coffee.

 

[Mathington]

I'm also very confused as to the problem. Why wouldn't you want it to hold you in place while stopped? If you didn't want it to hold, I would assume you want it to creep ahead in which case, you could just gentle press the accelerator.

Perhaps it's just me, but there is no situation I have come across where I wouldn't want it to hold me in place while I'm stopped.

Are you able to provide a specific example and the problem that you are having with it holding the car in place?

 

[WNKent]

For @Ford Motor Company I wanted to suggest a feature I'd like to believe would be easy to implement and quite useful to people. My other car being a Porsche Macan (for the moment at least) has spoiled me with the "Hold" feature for braking. Obviously on the Mach-E we have the option to set auto-hold where the brakes go into hold automatically on every stop. We also have 1 pedal driving which is fabulous in some situations and does roughly the same thing not having to hold the brake.

Despite these things *sometimes* you just want to selectively set a "hold" while stopped (say at drive thru's). In that scenario the best thing we can do for now is go into the menu and turn it on and then later turn it back off. In the Macan there is another option. You're already holding the brake pedal down to be stopped. Simply give it a second push a little further down at this point and the car automatically goes into "hold" just for that stop. It's a fabulous option that should be quite possible with the hardware we have.

That said, perhaps I should be content until you figure out how to get my car farther then 2.1.0 before I ask for things like this.

Hmmm, I have a question... on Mach-E, when "auto-hold" is activated, are the brake lights on?

 

[ZuleMME]

I'm also very confused as to the problem. Why wouldn't you want it to hold you in place while stopped? If you didn't want it to hold, I would assume you want it to creep ahead in which case, you could just gentle press the accelerator.

Perhaps it's just me, but there is no situation I have come across where I wouldn't want it to hold me in place while I'm stopped.

Are you able to provide a specific example and the problem that you are having with it holding the car in place?

The goal was not to debate an issue but to make a product enhancement suggestion.

That said, a specific example of when you'd want a selective "hold" without permanent auto-hold... Drive thru's as I already suggested off of a crowded slow moving almost bumper to bumper driving. The creep forward (simulating an idling ICE car) is what we are used to and allows for easy "creep" to keep up with traffic. You pull off to the drive thru and while waiting in line want it to "hold". Preferably without having to dive into the menus and set that mode and then un-set it 5 minutes later.

I get it, people are different and it sounds like I'm one of few who cares. I get that there are other ways to do this. I listed them in my original post to demonstrate my awareness of them. I'm simply suggesting there is a nice value add feature that would likely be easy to code requiring nothing more than software to implement. Perhaps I'm expecting too much Tesla in Ford.

 

[Mathington]

The goal was not to debate an issue but to make a product enhancement suggestion.

That said, a specific example of when you'd want a selective "hold" without permanent auto-hold... Drive thru's as I already suggested off of a crowded slow moving almost bumper to bumper driving. The creep forward (simulating an idling ICE car) is what we are used to and allows for easy "creep" to keep up with traffic. You pull off to the drive thru and while waiting in line want it to "hold". Preferably without having to dive into the menus and set that mode and then un-set it 5 minutes later.

I get it, people are different and it sounds like I'm one of few who cares. I get that there are other ways to do this. I listed them in my original post to demonstrate my awareness of them. I'm simply suggesting there is a nice value add feature that would likely be easy to code requiring nothing more than software to implement. Perhaps I'm expecting too much Tesla in Ford.

I don't think people are trying to debate it, but more understand the feature you are suggesting.

Thank you for explaining it further, I think I now understand what you are looking for, which in my opinion is less of a hold and more like the ability for on-demand creep mode.

Since ICE cars naturally creep, the Porsche option makes sense as an on-demand hold, but for the Mach-E, which doesn't creep naturally, we want the opposite which is on-demand creep. I can totally see a use case for this and think it's a good feature.

Perhaps there could be an option to double press a button on the steering wheel to enable this?

 

[ZuleMME]

I don't think people are trying to debate it, but more understand the feature you are suggesting.

Thank you for explaining it further, I think I now understand what you are looking for, which in my opinion is less of a hold and more like the ability for on-demand creep mode.

Since ICE cars naturally creep, the Porsche option makes sense as an on-demand hold, but for the Mach-E, which doesn't creep naturally, we want the opposite which is on-demand creep. I can totally see a use case for this and think it's a good feature.

Perhaps there could be an option to double press a button on the steering wheel to enable this?

So you are suggesting it from the other perspective, from 1pd having a creep? If you aren't in 1pd it creeps anyway and just needs the hold feature to be accessible in another way. But I think I see where you are coming from?

 

[AKgrampy]

I do not use auto hold. I understand what he is asking for. When I wait in line my car will move forward if I let off the brake. He is just saying if you chose to operate as we do that he wishes there was the ability to select hold. For myself I just keep my foot on the brake but I could see where I might make use of this option if it were available. Low on my list though!

 

[ZuleMME]

I do not use auto hold. I understand what he is asking for. When I wait in line my car will move forward if I let off the brake. He is just saying if you chose to operate as we do that he wishes there was the ability to select hold. For myself I just keep my foot on the brake but I could see where I might make use of this option if it were available. Low on my list though!

I was driving the Macan last night with the feature. That's why it was fresh on my mind to post here.

 

[dmastro]

I do not use auto hold. I understand what he is asking for. When I wait in line my car will move forward if I let off the brake. He is just saying if you chose to operate as we do that he wishes there was the ability to select hold. For myself I just keep my foot on the brake but I could see where I might make use of this option if it were available. Low on my list though!

Thank you, I couldn't quite make out what OP was expressing. Personally, I love 1PD with Hold on my Tesla. It took a little getting used to but now I dislike driving cars that creep.

I can see where it would be a useful feature for some but agree low priority since there are already options for creep and hold, although not quite as suggested here.

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