Are there long-term benefits for preconditioning?

[timbop]

The battery is warrantied for eight years. Not sure I much point in babying it even more than Ford already does, since it's in Ford's best interest to extend the battery life for you.

You do realize that the warranty is for at least 70% capacity after 8 years, not 100%?

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[mateo]

I concur with those who set departure time simply to heat the cabin. If the app weren't so laggy and buggy for me, maybe I would use it to remote start the car daily. I can't even change the schedule on my Android app anymore...

It's a shame I'm just wasting energy preconditioning the battery for no good reason. Seems like a dumb omission on Ford's part to not give you the option to only condition the cabin.

 

[SuperRob]

You do realize that the warranty is for at least 70% capacity after 8 years, not 100%?

You’re not going to be at 100% after 8 years, no matter what you do. Name me any lithium ion battery that still has full capacity after that long. I haven’t gotten any to last more than four. All the advice out there amounts to old wives’ tales.

And this is my point: Ford is already doing everything they can to make sure the battery lasts, but I’m fully convinced the eight year warranty is there for buyer peace of mind, not because the battery will last that long. And frankly, no one has worn down a Mach-E battery enough to know what works and what doesn’t anyway. So you might as well follow Ford’s guidance.

Although, there’s some indication that you want to go the other direction. Wear that battery down as much as you can. Get it replaced under warranty before that eight years is up. That’s the only way you’re getting that battery to have more capacity after all that use.

Anyway, I just don’t understand people who will inconvenience themselves for maybe another 5% That won’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Enjoy the car, plug it in when you’re not using it, do what Ford recommends. This isn’t rocket surgery. Enjoy the car.

 

[timbop]

You’re not going to be at 100% after 8 years, no matter what you do. Name me any lithium ion battery that still has full capacity after that long. I haven’t gotten any to last more than four. All the advice out there amounts to old wives’ tales.

And this is my point: Ford is already doing everything they can to make sure the battery lasts, but I’m fully convinced the eight year warranty is there for buyer peace of mind, not because the battery will last that long. And frankly, no one has worn down a Mach-E battery enough to know what works and what doesn’t anyway. So you might as well follow Ford’s guidance.

Although, there’s some indication that you want to go the other direction. Wear that battery down as much as you can. Get it replaced under warranty before that eight years is up. That’s the only way you’re getting that battery to have more capacity after all that use.

Anyway, I just don’t understand people who will inconvenience themselves for maybe another 5% That won’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Enjoy the car, plug it in when you’re not using it, do what Ford recommends. This isn’t rocket surgery. Enjoy the car.

Ford isn't driving your car, you are. It's no different than those who change their oil in an ICE more frequently vs those who wait until the light comes on. It's a personal philosophy, but I am trying to get the best information I can because I want my car to last AND retain the most range over that timespan. I noticed you were very blase' about the warranty and others reading your post may not be aware that there is a BIG caveat on that warranty, so I pointed it out.

As for the "other way" scenario of intentionally abusing a car hoping to get a new battery before 8 years/100k, that seems less advisable than babying the damn thing too much.

 

[RedOctobrrr]

Ford isn't driving your car, you are. It's no different than those who change their oil in an ICE more frequently vs those who wait until the light comes on. It's a personal philosophy, but I am trying to get the best information I can because I want my car to last AND retain the most range over that timespan. I noticed you were very blase' about the warranty and others reading your post may not be aware that there is a BIG caveat on that warranty, so I pointed it out.

As for the "other way" scenario of intentionally abusing a car hoping to get a new battery before 8 years/100k, that seems less advisable than babying the damn thing too much.

Seems you got roughly 4 major schools of thought here:

1. Do everything possible for longevity so that the battery is still good at 20yrs.

2. Just doing the minimum to make the car last.

3. I probably won't have the car in the next 5-10 years anyways so by the time the battery acts up, not my problem.

4. If I trash the ever-living F out of this battery by doing everything wrong (2% to 100% fast charging, always, never precondition, flog it 0-60 cold if I feel like it) and by year 7 I'll get a brand new battery warrantied.

 

[Mach1E]

Seems you got roughly 4 major schools of thought here:

1. Do everything possible for longevity so that the battery is still good at 20yrs.

2. Just doing the minimum to make the car last.

3. I probably won't have the car in the next 5-10 years anyways so by the time the battery acts up, not my problem.

4. If I trash the ever-living F out of this battery by doing everything wrong (2% to 100% fast charging, always, never precondition, flog it 0-60 cold if I feel like it) and by year 7 I'll get a brand new battery warrantied.

I would guess many people don’t fit into any of those 4.

For me it’s #5.

5. Charge the car when you need to as you need to. Drive the car how you want to.

Although maybe it’s a bit of 2 and 3.

 

[RedOctobrrr]

I would guess many people don’t fit into any of those 4.

Yeah most people probably do fit

Although maybe it’s a bit of 2 and 3.

Yourself included

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