Mach-E Aftermarket wheel and tire information and pictures

[markboris]

Well, I said I would be posting some photos of the pre-game car show but the only other Mach-E was Gary's GT. He was one of the first on the west coast to get one. I've never seen Dark Matter Gray in person. Very cool color and unless the sun is out, which it wasn't, it almost looks black. There were some other very cool cars (McLaren, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc.) but not being Mach-E's, no need to post. It was a very small show with only about 15 cars. Just before the game, we were allowed to drive around one lap in the outfield for all the fans to see which was kind of cool.

Gary's Mach-E GT. Those wheels looked better on his car in person than in the photo.

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[sleightofhand]

My setup:
Signature SV706 wheels in gloss black. Front 20x8.5 +34, rear 20x10 +47. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV tires front 255/45/20, rear 295/40/20. Even though the wheels and tires are much larger than OEM, was able to shave off 14.5 lbs total weight on the new setup.

As Mike had stated with his Mach-E, the car drives and handles much better. I have had this setup now for over 4000 miles and probably have a 10% hit in the range. Since I only had the car for one week before changing out the wheels and tires, I have no clue what my mi/kWh was stock but I can say that the average I am getting for the total 4000 miles is 3.0 mi/kWh. The trip I took two weeks ago to Yosemite and then to the SF bay area then back home was 457 miles and averaged 3.3 mi/kWh.

I have an Iconic Silver GTPE on order and thinking of ordering another set of wheels in a simple 5 spoke design. I would be getting the same size wheel specs but changing the tires to 245/45/20 front and 275/40/20 rear because I want to go with Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires and they are not available in the 295/40/20 size.

I know I'm late to the party, but I'm gonna copy *exactly* what MarkBoris did with his wheels & tires. Same wheels, same size tires, same amount of lowering, same lug nuts, eat what he eats, sleep when he sleeps...etc....etc.

 

[mkhuffman]

I know I'm late to the party, but I'm gonna copy *exactly* what MarkBoris did with his wheels & tires. Same wheels, same size tires, same amount of lowering, same lug nuts, eat what he eats, sleep when he sleeps...etc....etc.

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[markboris]

I know I'm late to the party, but I'm gonna copy *exactly* what MarkBoris did with his wheels & tires. Same wheels, same size tires, same amount of lowering, same lug nuts, eat what he eats, sleep when he sleeps...etc....etc.

Thanks Gary but my post you quoted is over 2 years old and I have tried 9 different sets of tires and 4 different staggered sizes since then. I think we should discuss exactly what you are after before you copy what I did back in May of '21. I'll DM you.

 

[MachEasy]

As a newbie...I'm obsessed with this thread. Working my way slowly through its entirety and loving the creativity and different preferences people have. I'm also overwhelmed by all the choices and options. I have a Premium Mach E 2021. I want to definitely change out my wheels initially and then likely the tires after I get some use out of them. My goals:

1. Soften the ride a little bit...it can be firm at times. When I got the car, its running at 44 PSI...from this thread, my first simple move is to reduce the tire pressure.
2. Add to the aesthetic of the car. Its a great looking car and the OEM tires are nicer than I thought they would be, but we all want to customize our ride.
3. I'm willing to accept a small drop in range ...5-8%..this is mostly our driving around town car and it will go on the occasional road trip. We live in SoCal so the weather is mild and I will take my Jeep to the mtns when I go skiing.

A couple questions:

1. In deciding between staying with the standard 19" wheels or 20"...will there be a large different in ride quality...eg. is one better than the other?
2. How important is the wheel/tire combo? Can I find a wheel upgrade that will ride just fine and then expect to change the ride quality even more by adding a better tire once I'm ready to change out the tires? I don't plan on having two sets of tires...I have too much crap (family with lots of sports stuff) in my garage as it is.
3. How much should I expect to pay for a quality set of new wheels? E.g., are there price points where I'm getting a wheel that is higher quality product OR is just cooler and maybe more unique from an aesthetic standpoint? Where is the sweet spot between cost and quality and are there particular attributes I should look for particularly as it relates to their alignment with the attributes of the Mach E?

Please help me start to narrow down the options because its a bit overwhelming to try and work through the decision tree. BTW..whomever recommended Fitment Industries..thx! What a cool site and company.

 

[Draken99]

Here's mine, or my wife's... depending who you ask? Hope to get better pics in the future

2023 MME Premium LR AWD

Wheels
Braelin BR10 20x9 ET38 in Bronzed Carbon Front and rear

Tires
Michelin Crossclimate 2's 245 45 R20

 

[markboris]

As a newbie...I'm obsessed with this thread. Working my way slowly through its entirety and loving the creativity and different preferences people have. I'm also overwhelmed by all the choices and options. I have a Premium Mach E 2021. I want to definitely change out my wheels initially and then likely the tires after I get some use out of them. My goals:

1. Soften the ride a little bit...it can be firm at times. When I got the car, its running at 44 PSI...from this thread, my first simple move is to reduce the tire pressure.
2. Add to the aesthetic of the car. Its a great looking car and the OEM tires are nicer than I thought they would be, but we all want to customize our ride.
3. I'm willing to accept a small drop in range ...5-8%..this is mostly our driving around town car and it will go on the occasional road trip. We live in SoCal so the weather is mild and I will take my Jeep to the mtns when I go skiing.

A couple questions:

1. In deciding between staying with the standard 19" wheels or 20"...will there be a large different in ride quality...eg. is one better than the other?
2. How important is the wheel/tire combo? Can I find a wheel upgrade that will ride just fine and then expect to change the ride quality even more by adding a better tire once I'm ready to change out the tires? I don't plan on having two sets of tires...I have too much crap (family with lots of sports stuff) in my garage as it is.
3. How much should I expect to pay for a quality set of new wheels? E.g., are there price points where I'm getting a wheel that is higher quality product OR is just cooler and maybe more unique from an aesthetic standpoint? Where is the sweet spot between cost and quality and are there particular attributes I should look for particularly as it relates to their alignment with the attributes of the Mach E?

Please help me start to narrow down the options because its a bit overwhelming to try and work through the decision tree. BTW..whomever recommended Fitment Industries..thx! What a cool site and company.

Hey Randy, sorry for the huge delay in answering your questions. Been out of the country and you know how life gets in the way sometimes.......

It seems like your main concern is improving the ride quality on your Mach-E. I will answer your questions the best I can.

1. Between 19" or 20", while there is not a large difference in ride quality, there is some. The 19" or even 18" tire will give you a slightly better ride due to the sidewall being taller. There is a little more cushion between the road and the wheel that can give you a slightly softer ride and it can also be a little quieter. The drawback is with a taller sidewall the steering and handling will be slightly less responsive. If you notice, performance cars usually have larger wheels (20", 22") because when fitted with tires, the sidewalls are very short giving very sharp, responsive handling but the ride can suffer.

Case in point, both my Mach-E and GT500 have a very similar suspension. Both have the same size (20") and type of wheels (forged aluminum) from the same wheel manufacturer (Signature). I have run the same exact tires on the Mach-E that the GT500 has which are the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. It is a very high performance summer tire (my all time favorite for handling). Because of the tire size difference between the two cars, the Mach-E's 20" tires have a sidewall that is 1" taller than the GT500's 20" and it is a very noticeable difference in ride quality, handling, etc.

2. The wheel/tire combo is really not important at all. The wheels have very little to do with your ride quality. That said, the lighter the wheel, the slightly better ride quality and handling are. You have less unsprung weight which improves both. The Mach-E 19" premium wheels weigh around 30 lbs while the GT and GTPE 20" wheels are closer to 33-34 lbs. My 20" forged aluminum wheels weigh 22-24 lbs and the lightest wheels you can buy are carbon fiber and would weigh around 18 lbs in the 20" size that would fit the Mach-E. When choosing wheels, I would worry more about the style you want than the weight but try to keep them around 30 lbs or less if you can.

3. How much should you expect to pay for a quality set of wheels? I really cannot answer that question. You can get a decent quality wheel for $250 but can also pay as high as $8000 for each. I don't think a unique wheel really costs that much more. It's usually all in the way the wheel is manufactured. Most aftermarket aluminum wheels are flow formed which is stronger and lighter than cast aluminum wheels. I would definitely look for flow formed. they are very reasonably priced. Fully forged aluminum wheels are the best as they are even stronger and lighter but at a much higher cost usually starting at $1000 each and going up from there. We won't even talk about carbon fiber wheels that run $6000 each and up. Find something you like that's hopefully not heavier than the wheel you are replacing and put a good set of tires on and you are good to go.

Your questions seem to mainly be about wheels but if you are interested in improving the ride quality, the tires are going to make the biggest difference by far. I have run 9 different sets of tires on the Mach-E and have an opinion about each which I have shared somewhere in this forum, just don't remember which thread. Bottom line is, a grand touring all season tire will usually ride the smoothest followed by a performance all season with a summer performance tire being the least smooth. I do have my preferences that I am constantly getting asked about but it depends on the tire size you end up wanting to go with as not every tire is made in every size. Once I know which size you will end up getting, I can recommend a tire based on your most desired feature (smooth ride, quiet, handling, most range, etc.).

 

[MachEasy]

Hey Randy, sorry for the huge delay in answering your questions. Been out of the country and you know how life gets in the way sometimes.......

It seems like your main concern is improving the ride quality on your Mach-E. I will answer your questions the best I can.

1. Between 19" or 20", while there is not a large difference in ride quality, there is some. The 19" or even 18" tire will give you a slightly better ride due to the sidewall being taller. There is a little more cushion between the road and the wheel that can give you a slightly softer ride and it can also be a little quieter. The drawback is with a taller sidewall the steering and handling will be slightly less responsive. If you notice, performance cars usually have larger wheels (20", 22") because when fitted with tires, the sidewalls are very short giving very sharp, responsive handling but the ride can suffer.

Case in point, both my Mach-E and GT500 have a very similar suspension. Both have the same size (20") and type of wheels (forged aluminum) from the same wheel manufacturer (Signature). I have run the same exact tires on the Mach-E that the GT500 has which are the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. It is a very high performance summer tire (my all time favorite for handling). Because of the tire size difference between the two cars, the Mach-E's 20" tires have a sidewall that is 1" taller than the GT500's 20" and it is a very noticeable difference in ride quality, handling, etc.

2. The wheel/tire combo is really not important at all. The wheels have very little to do with your ride quality. That said, the lighter the wheel, the slightly better ride quality and handling are. You have less unsprung weight which improves both. The Mach-E 19" premium wheels weigh around 30 lbs while the GT and GTPE 20" wheels are closer to 33-34 lbs. My 20" forged aluminum wheels weigh 22-24 lbs and the lightest wheels you can buy are carbon fiber and would weigh around 18 lbs in the 20" size that would fit the Mach-E. When choosing wheels, I would worry more about the style you want than the weight but try to keep them around 30 lbs or less if you can.

3. How much should you expect to pay for a quality set of wheels? I really cannot answer that question. You can get a decent quality wheel for $250 but can also pay as high as $8000 for each. I don't think a unique wheel really costs that much more. It's usually all in the way the wheel is manufactured. Most aftermarket aluminum wheels are flow formed which is stronger and lighter than cast aluminum wheels. I would definitely look for flow formed. they are very reasonably priced. Fully forged aluminum wheels are the best as they are even stronger and lighter but at a much higher cost usually starting at $1000 each and going up from there. We won't even talk about carbon fiber wheels that run $6000 each and up. Find something you like that's hopefully not heavier than the wheel you are replacing and put a good set of tires on and you are good to go.

Your questions seem to mainly be about wheels but if you are interested in improving the ride quality, the tires are going to make the biggest difference by far. I have run 9 different sets of tires on the Mach-E and have an opinion about each which I have shared somewhere in this forum, just don't remember which thread. Bottom line is, a grand touring all season tire will usually ride the smoothest followed by a performance all season with a summer performance tire being the least smooth. I do have my preferences that I am constantly getting asked about but it depends on the tire size you end up wanting to go with as not every tire is made in every size. Once I know which size you will end up getting, I can recommend a tire based on your most desired feature (smooth ride, quiet, handling, most range, etc.).

Thanks, Mark. Fantastic thread and thanks for your thorough answers. I'm going with 19" wheels and probably looking at a performance all season tire that goes 245/50/19...nothing crazy. I'd like get slightly smoother ride than the stock setup with solid handling and am willing to tradeoff on range a bit...say 10 to 15%. That's probably my sweet spot.

 

[markboris]

Thanks, Mark. Fantastic thread and thanks for your thorough answers. I'm going with 19" wheels and probably looking at a performance all season tire that goes 245/50/19...nothing crazy. I'd like get slightly smoother ride than the stock setup with solid handling and am willing to tradeoff on range a bit...say 10 to 15%. That's probably my sweet spot.

Ok Randy so if you are going to go with a 245/50/19 size, this is what I would recommend in a performance all season....

The Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 should be at the top of your list. It is one of the best performing all season tires on the market. It's not the quietest or smoothest performance all season though. While it is not a low rolling resistant tire, it is decent. Next would be the Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus. This tire is similar in performance to the Michelin's but with a slightly smoother ride. This tire has a slightly higher rolling resistance than the Michelin's. Third on my list would be the Pirelli P Zero All Season. While this is still a high performance all season, it does not perform as good as the other two however it has the smoothest, quietest ride and the least rolling resistance of the bunch.

Now, I would recommend going one size up to a 255/45/19. It will give you a slightly taller sidewall giving you a bit more cushion for a softer ride. There is a tire in this size that is one of the smoothest riding, quietest tires performance all season tire you can buy. . The Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3. It is a new tire designed for luxury SUV's and cars. I have a friend with a Tesla S who just replaced his Michelin's (do not know the model) and could not believe how much quieter and better riding his car is. The Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus is also available in this size. There is one tire that is designed for EV's in this size and it is the Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season ELECT. It has the lowest rolling resistance of any of these tires. While it is not a high performance all season, it still performs better than a grand touring tire.

 

[agdad]

Mark any thoughts and recommendation for 19 inch runflats........ having no spare scares the crap outta me !

 

[markboris]

Mark any thoughts and recommendation for 19 inch runflats........ having no spare scares the crap outta me !

Nope. Have never used them. My friends that have can’t wait get rid of them. Handle poorly and the ride terrible.

 

[MachEasy]

Ok Randy so if you are going to go with a 245/50/19 size, this is what I would recommend in a performance all season....

The Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 should be at the top of your list. It is one of the best performing all season tires on the market. It's not the quietest or smoothest performance all season though. While it is not a low rolling resistant tire, it is decent. Next would be the Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus. This tire is similar in performance to the Michelin's but with a slightly smoother ride. This tire has a slightly higher rolling resistance than the Michelin's. Third on my list would be the Pirelli P Zero All Season. While this is still a high performance all season, it does not perform as good as the other two however it has the smoothest, quietest ride and the least rolling resistance of the bunch.

Now, I would recommend going one size up to a 255/45/19. It will give you a slightly taller sidewall giving you a bit more cushion for a softer ride. There is a tire in this size that is one of the smoothest riding, quietest tires performance all season tire you can buy. . The Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3. It is a new tire designed for luxury SUV's and cars. I have a friend with a Tesla S who just replaced his Michelin's (do not know the model) and could not believe how much quieter and better riding his car is. The Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus is also available in this size. There is one tire that is designed for EV's in this size and it is the Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season ELECT. It has the lowest rolling resistance of any of these tires. While it is not a high performance all season, it still performs better than a grand touring tire.

Thanks, Mark. Chock full of goodness here. I'm going to go review these tire selections and start honing in on a top choice. Thank you so very much!

 

[sleightofhand]

Thanks to MarkBoris and Terrance from Signature Wheel.
SV706 F: 20x8.5 255/45 R: 20x10 285/40

 

[LVMMEGT]

Running Signature SV706 also. 255 and 295

 

[sleightofhand]

Very nice. Brand of tires?

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