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You're not factoring in that there are now two types of batteries, NCM and LFP.

Note: If you are unsure of the battery type used in your vehicle locate the vehicle identification label located on the dash board or driver door. If the 8th vin digit is a 4 or 5 you have a Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) battery, and if there is any other digit or letter you have the Nickel Cobalt Manganese (NCM) style battery.

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You can increase the longevity and performance of your high voltage battery by using the charge scheduling and departure and comfort settings on your touchscreen or in the FordPass app. Charge Scheduling improves the high voltage battery's longevity by delaying the start of charging and setting a maximum charging limit.

Extended Range Nickel Cobalt Manganese (NCM) Batteries

Set your preferred charging times to be at least 2-3 hours after your typical plug in time. This allows the battery to cool before charging begins. Additionally, setting the maximum charge level to 90% for everyday usage reduces strain on the battery.

Standard Range Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) Batteries

Set the maximum charge level to 100%
and charge to 100% at least once per month to maintain range accuracy.

You can improve driving range and performance by scheduling departure times and cabin comfort level with the Departure and Comfort feature. This will not only warm or cool the cabin but also condition the battery to ensure best driving range and performance by the set departure time.

DC Charging

Frequent use of DC charging could result in reducing your battery's efficiency and lifespan. This is more pronounced on the standard range battery pack versus the extended range battery pack.

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The car is a week old, but from the VIN it looks like I have an NCM battery. Been keeping the charge between 20% and 80% mostly.
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The car is a week old, but from the VIN it looks like I have an NCM battery. Been keeping the charge between 20% and 80% mostly.
My window sticker says I have a 91KWH USABLE EXT BATTERY. What does your sticker say about the battery.
 

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My window sticker says I have a 91KWH USABLE EXT BATTERY. What does your sticker say about the battery.
This is a UK thread and in the UK we don't have window stickers.
 

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My window sticker says I have a 91KWH USABLE EXT BATTERY. What does your sticker say about the battery.​
It is not always 91. It losses capacity with age, and mostly noticeable - with lower temperature. I charged my standard battery to 100% at 30F a couple days ago, and it only got 58 kwh. At 80F it was 66 kwh max.
 

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The wonderful world of EV range..


I can't add much apart from the fact I've had my Mach e extended range RWD for just over a year now and have covered 22k miles in it through both last winter and this summer. Best range I've ever got taking it to 100% on my home charger was 367miles (just under the claimed range for my car) but the worst was last winter in the cold when I got 178miles on a full charge. I then drove to York for a meeting (I’m in Staffordshire) and had to charge when I got to York and was almost on zero miles when I got home. No heated steering wheel, no heated seats and the temp in the cabin set at a reasonable 21c.

I do find the "e heat" button in the climate control function has a massive impact on range and battery use and when in use and have some of the ancillaries on (mentioned above) it can take around 25% of the battery use.

Ran diesels for years before making the switch to EV and if you put a full tank of dinosaur juice in either the summer or the winter the range was roughly the same!

Not sure if this helps or not...
I like to think of the guess-o-meter as a credit score. takes into account weather & road conditions, driving style, prep and auxiliary draws on the battery. Could it have been all the ‘stars’ (so-to-speak) were in alignment to cause such a noticeable drop?
 


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It is not always 91. It losses capacity with age, and mostly noticeable - with lower temperature. I charged my standard battery to 100% at 30F a couple days ago, and it only got 58 kwh. At 80F it was 66 kwh max.
I’m not sure this is true. I just charged over the weekend. The charger says I added 45.5kwh and my cars log states 50% added. This is would equal exactly 91kwh, the same as what the manufacturer claims as the usable battery any time I have checked this in the past it always works out as exactly 91kwh. The actual battery is 98kwh but they keep some of it unusable specifically to limit battery degradation. The temperature doesn’t affect the capacity, but it does affect its efficiency at both charging and powering the car. You will get less range but the usable capacity is the same. I would expect in a few years a difference may start to be noticeable, as the battery ages. Apparently the batteries should be good for 10 years till the capacity starts to become an issue with estimates being around 85-90% of capacity.
 
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The temperature doesn’t affect the capacity
The data received from ODBII doesn't prove that - with lower battery temperature it shows a lower KWh number for 100%. It is also my understanding or the preconditioning of the battery - it get warmer and can hold a higher charge.

I reserve the right to be wrong :)
 

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Firstly, before everyone piles on, I understand the quirks of the 'guess o meter' and the variations in EV range, but my first week with my Standard Range RWD has been underwhelming and just wondering whether anyone else has experienced such a low range. I apologise in advance if this feels like deja vu.

This week, we charged to 73% and the car estimated 144 mile range; so circa 197 miles on a full charge - something I can accept in the winter. However, we drove 29 miles on the motorway and the battery fell to 48% estimating 92 miles - a 52 mile drop!. The following day, it used 38% battery to do 44 miles over the day (half in slow moving rush hour traffic in the morning). Then yesterday, my wife did 19 miles in slow town traffic and the car used 16% charge - with the range falling 56 miles from its initial estimate. I'm not a maths whizz, but I work out that the car is currently doing around 115 miles to a full charge. This is obviously well over half Ford's estimate for the standard range and more in line with BEVs from ten years ago.

I'm loving the car, but could do with getting my head around this.
watch your climate temps, I forgot which update it was, it really uses power now on our 22 rwd stnd. we were happy until started updating, we take the chill out and shut it off, ac not so bad
 

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Currently averaging 3.9 miles/kWh in my ER RWD after just under 9000 miles and 8 months. Always prewarm it on the home charger for set journeys.

Ford Mustang Mach-E New Mach E Range IMG_8327
 

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I honestly don’t know how people get those ranges, even in Summer I only hit around 3.5

this is my average in winter about 2.1 giving around 190 miles which is what I tend to experience

Ford Mustang Mach-E New Mach E Range IMG_7869


and this is what I hit this morning driving to work, this is including preconditioning.
That is 0.9 miles per kWh meaning I would get less than 90 miles on a full charge if it continued at that rate.

Ford Mustang Mach-E New Mach E Range IMG_7870


I must have a faulty car as it is drastically different to what other people are experiencing
 

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Lowest I have seen mine on a journey so far is circa 1.9 mind you we havent had it so cold down in the south UK as yet. looking at your energy bar seems to match apart from climate use generally keep my temp between 21-23c and one notch on the fan speed. mind you yesterday driving back from reading to Bristol last night it did a battery recalculation mid journey and reduced range by 20-30 miles. on the 144 mile round trip left home with 100% 303 mile range and got back with circa 120 miles, temps ranging from 0-2c in morning to 5-6c on the way back.
 

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and this is what I hit this morning driving to work, this is including preconditioning.
That is 0.9 miles per kWh meaning I would get less than 90 miles on a full charge if it continued at that rate.

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I must have a faulty car as it is drastically different to what other people are experiencing
It's because you're driving so slow, only about 25 MPH there. With full heat output, the most efficient driving speed is about 40 MPH. Slower than that, you burn through heat faster than you can rack up miles. In the summer, the most efficient speed is about 30 MPH due to lower energy use.
 

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It's because you're driving so slow, only about 25 MPH there. With full heat output, the most efficient driving speed is about 40 MPH. Slower than that, you burn through heat faster than you can rack up miles. In the summer, the most efficient speed is about 30 MPH due to lower energy use.
That’s great advice for driving around a city on my commute to work especially when it’s icy lol. I’ll make sure and explain to the cops that I was just driving efficiently when I get pulled over for speeding.

I highly suspect the main reason it’s so low is because it was -5C that day. I know that the efficiency is far lower than average. But I don’t get how people get 3.9m/kw at this time of year when I don’t even get above 2.2. And in even in Summer barely get above 3.5

im driving 600 from Aberdeen to Devon over Xmas so it’ll be interesting to see what range I get then
 
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That’s great advice for driving around a city on my commute to work especially when it’s icy lol. I’ll make sure and explain to the cops that I was just driving efficiently when I get pulled over for speeding.

I highly suspect the main reason it’s so low is because it was -5C that day. I know that the efficiency is far lower than average. But I don’t get how people get 3.9m/kw at this time of year when I don’t even get above 2.2. And in even in Summer barely get above 3.5

im driving 600 from Aberdeen to Devon over Xmas so it’ll be interesting to see what range I get then
At -5C I get about 2.4, so you’re close.
 

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That’s great advice for driving around a city on my commute to work especially when it’s icy lol. I’ll make sure and explain to the cops that I was just driving efficiently when I get pulled over for speeding.

I highly suspect the main reason it’s so low is because it was -5C that day. I know that the efficiency is far lower than average. But I don’t get how people get 3.9m/kw at this time of year when I don’t even get above 2.2. And in even in Summer barely get above 3.5

im driving 600 from Aberdeen to Devon over Xmas so it’ll be interesting to see what range I get then
Same reason I averaged 11-13 mpg in my last car though. My commute to work was 30 mph zones and 1 mile from home. Half the time was spent in the parking lot.

The good news is the efficiency penalty for driving that slow with a BEV is nothing compared to a gas car.
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