Study: Tesla has the Highest Accident Rate of any Auto Brand

[RickMachE]

Given who owns Teslas, this makes total sense.

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[Hammered]

Given who owns Teslas, this makes total sense.

Does it? Those top 3 owners are the DEI/ESG sewage dispensers.

 

[DevSecOps]

Given who owns Teslas, this makes total sense.

Yup, those middle-upper/upper income, highly educated people certainly are dangerous drivers. It's a good thing you don't live in California, right Rick?

 

[RickMachE]

Does it? Those top 3 owners are the DEI/ESG sewage dispensers.

I meant the owners of the cars.

 

[tuminatr]

My take away is the RAM drivers take the name seriously, maybe it is more of a warning that a brand name

 

[DevSecOps]

The RAM problem is likely folks in the construction trades. That's a drugs and alcohol crowd.

???

You realize that construction is one of the only trades where you can still fire someone for recreational cannabis use while not on the job? California AB 2188 goes into affect in 2024 making it illegal to fire someone for drug use off the job however the law does not apply to building and construction trades. That's not just in California, that's everywhere. There's too high a safety liability.

 

[TheSteelRider]

I'm sorry, what? [...] recreational cannabis use while not on the job? [...] There's too high

I fixed your sentence

 

[Mach1E]

Yeah it's obviously click bait because the data is based on drivers. Not vehicles. Additionally, there's nothing that suggests that the accidents happened in the vehicles that they are attempting to insure.

So yes the Forbes article smells and the OP giving it the Title he did speaks to his intentions.

^^^ That is not at all what the article is about.

Being that Tesla has a younger driver base (per a Jerry Study) it's no surprise that they would be more accident prone. "found that 70% of the Tesla drivers in the data set were 34-years-old or younger — meaning the majority were Millennials or Generation-Z"

Interestingly, the study also found that "Tesla drivers are more educated on average. About one-third of Tesla drivers studied had a master's degree or doctoral degree as compared to only 13% of the US population, according to the Census." Maybe the next thread will be about that since we like being fair around here right?

Except that aren’t drivers in their 30s typically among the safest drivers?

It’s teenagers and people 80+ that are significantly more dangerous. And neither of those groups typically drive a Tesla.

https://aaafoundation.org/rates-mot...-relation-driver-age-united-states-2014-2015/

But whether this is correlation or causation, it doesn’t look good for Tesla. Especially considering all the “crash avoidance” and “driver assist” features they have piled into the cars.

 

[Mach1E]

???

You realize that construction is one of the only trades where you can still fire someone for recreational cannabis use while not on the job? California AB 2188 goes into affect in 2024 making it illegal to fire someone for drug use off the job however the law does not apply to building and construction trades. That's not just in California, that's everywhere. There's too high a safety liability.

Must be a California thing.

In Florida if they fired all the construction workers who did drugs, nothing would get built. ?

My last contractor had to talk to his assistant to get him not to smoke in our driveway before work everyday.

He responded “don’t worry, they’re just CBD cigarettes.” ?

 

[DevSecOps]

Except that aren’t drivers in their 30s typically among the safest drivers?

It’s teenagers and people 80+ that are significantly more dangerous. And neither of those groups typically drive a Tesla.

https://aaafoundation.org/rates-mot...-relation-driver-age-united-states-2014-2015/

Thanks for providing a link that disproves what you just said. Accidents aren't just deaths. There's a reason insurance companies charge more for younger people. They are more accident prone statistically.

Per the study I referenced Tesla drivers are skewing gen z and millennial, 34 years and younger. Gen Z starts in birth year 1997.

But whether this is correlation or causation, it doesn’t look good for Tesla. Especially considering all the “crash avoidance” and “driver assist” features they have piled into the cars.

Really? Did you read the article. It has nothing to do with Tesla vehicles, nor does it say those vehicles were the ones involved in an accident.

So please tell me how an accident in a VW (as an example) has anything to do with safety features of a Tesla?

 

[Chuck]

And advertise them as hands free and the safest things around.

I've never seen a Tesla advertisement.

 

[TheSteelRider]

I've never seen a Tesla advertisement.

Here is one, it's my fav

 

[Mach1E]

Thanks for providing a link that disproves what you just said. Accidents aren't just deaths. There's a reason insurance companies charge more for younger people. They are more accident prone statistically.

Per the study I referenced Tesla drivers are skewing gen z and millennial, 34 years and younger. Gen Z starts in birth year 1997.



Really? Did you read the article. It has nothing to do with Tesla vehicles, nor does it say those vehicles were the ones involved in an accident.

So please tell me how an accident in a VW (as an example) has anything to do with safety features of a Tesla?

Why would I read the article when I can just read and respond to the headline?

It said “It found that Tesla drivers are involved in more accidents than drivers of any other brand. Tesla drivers had 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers.”

Not sure what this has to do with a VW.

 

[DevSecOps]

Why would I read the article when I can just read and respond to the headline?

It said “It found that Tesla drivers are involved in more accidents than drivers of any other brand. Tesla drivers had 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers.”

Not sure what this has to do with a VW.

DRIVERS. It says nothing about those vehicles being involved in accidents. If, for example, someone gets into an accident in a VW it stays on their record and when they go get insurance for their new Tesla they have an accident on their record. Accidents remain on your record for the purpose of insurance rates for 3-5 years.

Because Tesla drivers are skewing younger this isn't much of a surprise given that younger drivers are statistically more likely to be involved in accidents.

You used to be a voice of reason against people making false and misleading claims. The title of this thread has nothing to do with Tesla vehicles. The Forbes article is also click bait. Read the comments and look at the source of data.

 

[Mach1E]

DRIVERS. It says nothing about those vehicles being involved in accidents. If, for example, someone gets into an accident in a VW it stays on their record and when they go get insurance for their new Tesla they have an accident on their record. Accidents remain on your record for the purpose of insurance rates for 3-5 years.

Because Tesla drivers are skewing younger this isn't much of a surprise given that younger drivers are statistically more likely to be involved in accidents.

You used to be a voice of reason against people making false and misleading claims. The title of this thread has nothing to do with Tesla vehicles or the article he linked.

The people who did the study said it was the Teslas.

Your theory is that Tesla drivers all wrecked other cars then bought a Tesla and it’s a total coincidence?

I’m always skeptical of misleading claims (see the Nissan north to South Pole thread).

But in this case it’s just simple data. Not sure how else to interpret it.

We could question the sample size, margin of error etc. But the data is what it is. Insurance companies should know who crashes.

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