Testing Tesla SuperChargers with the J3400 to CCS1 adapter

[Aubury]

That should not be possible for safety reasons. When the car locks the CCS side latch, that has to internally also lock the NACS to CCS latch in the adapter. There is no way that Tesla did not address this in the adapter design, they did it for the Magic Docks.

But since Ford has the stop charging button at the port on the car, another driver could push that button, then pull the NACs out of the adapter.

I would like to think there should be an interlock for the NACS-side latch.

I've never done DCFC on my Mach E, are you able to use the unlock button to stop charging if the car is locked and the fob/phone isn't nearby?

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[Guss-E 2021]

Exactly! That's about as easy and seamless an experience as we could have hoped, and all in one shot instead of a phased approach. Obviously all the backend work is done, and now it's a case of waiting for Tesla's manufacturer to get them to Ford.

I fully expect Ford's estimates on delivery to be conservative (for good reason), but we'll see.

Ford announced moving to NACS quite some time ago. I think even before the announcement, Ford and Tesla were starting to hammer all this out. Now, dealers, sell up the fact that Ford EVs have easy access to the SC network and get some of that inventory down ?

 

[AhardFSU]

Ford announced moving to NACS quite some time ago. I think even before the announcement, Ford and Tesla were starting to hammer all this out. Now, dealers, sell up the fact that Ford EVs have easy access to the SC network and get some of that inventory down ?

Yeah I guess. But charging network issues probably isn’t the top reason why most people, not all aren’t buying. The 1st thing most people care about when they go car shopping is what will the monthly payment be. I’d say interest rates followed by purchase price followed by charging network would be the limiting factors. Now if the rates were lower and the car had a lower price and it got the full tax credit, then access to the Tesla SC network would be the cherry on top of the cake.

 

[timbop]

Yeah I guess. But charging network issues probably isn’t the top reason why most people, not all aren’t buying. The 1st thing most people care about when they go car shopping is what will the monthly payment be. I’d say interest rates followed by purchase price followed by charging network would be the limiting factors. Now if the rates were lower and the car had a lower price and it got the full tax credit, then access to the Tesla SC network would be the cherry on top of the cake.

The number one question I get from the curious about my car is "where do you charge it"
The number one comment I get from skeptics is "yeah but you can't charge it anywhere".

I really think this will be a game changer for Ford being able to get the Mach-E's off the lots, although the FUD has been pretty well hammered home by "news" organizations

 

[AhardFSU]

The number one question I get from the curious about my car is "where do you charge it"
The number one comment I get from skeptics is "yeah but you can't charge it anywhere".

I really think this will be a game changer for Ford being able to get the Mach-E's off the lots, although the FUD has been pretty well hammered home by "news" organizations

Yeah I think the FUD has been spread far and wide and it continues to be spread.

 

[timbop]

Yeah I think the FUD has been spread far and wide and it continues to be spread.

Unfortunately that is true.

 

[KevinS]

When charging on the road, would feel like I need to stay at my car the entire time with this adapter. I do not trust that it wouldn’t get stolen.

 

[Gloff]

The most important question is, can these adapters be unplugged on the NACS side while we're charging. It looks like all it is is a lever to release the charging handle. Could some salty Tesla owner pull up to the left of a Mach E and steal the charger by unplugging it from the adapter? Obviously the adapter stays plugged into the Mach E with a lock so they can't take that, but could they take the charging cable to do their own supercharging...

That should not be possible for safety reasons. When the car locks the CCS side latch, that has to internally also lock the NACS to CCS latch in the adapter. There is no way that Tesla did not address this in the adapter design, they did it for the Magic Docks.

But since Ford has the stop charging button at the port on the car, another driver could push that button, then pull the NACs out of the adapter.

I would like to think there should be an interlock for the NACS-side latch.

I've never done DCFC on my Mach E, are you able to use the unlock button to stop charging if the car is locked and the fob/phone isn't nearby?

According to the Manual, you cannot unlock the charge cable if you don't have the fob nearby. I have not verified this, as I have not needed to DCFC my Mach E.

I am curious if there is an interlock on the NACS side. Our J1772/NCAS Tesla Destination charger has that pin much like Tesla vehicles to lock the adapter to the NACS connector. You can hear it click when you pull the J1772 connector out of the holder.

 

[4sallypat]

According to the Manual, you cannot unlock the charge cable if you don't have the fob nearby. I have not verified this, as I have not needed to DCFC my Mach E.

I am curious if there is an interlock on the NACS side. Our J1772/NCAS Tesla Destination charger has that pin much like Tesla vehicles to lock the adapter to the NACS connector. You can hear it click when you pull the J1772 connector out of the holder.

This would be a great feature!

 

[AZBill]

According to the Manual, you cannot unlock the charge cable if you don't have the fob nearby. I have not verified this, as I have not needed to DCFC my Mach E.

I am curious if there is an interlock on the NACS side. Our J1772/NCAS Tesla Destination charger has that pin much like Tesla vehicles to lock the adapter to the NACS connector. You can hear it click when you pull the J1772 connector out of the holder.

The magic docks have a locking pin, so that is why I believe the adapters will also have that. It just has to be implemented in a different way.

 

[Gloff]

The magic docks have a locking pin, so that is why I believe the adapters will also have that. It just has to be implemented in a different way.

The adapter in our Destination charger is activated by the power source, so I would imagine that the Supercharger will activate the pin in the adapter when connected to the vehicle, once power is interrupted, it will allow release of the adapter. That's at least what I think will happen.

 

[Gloff]

The magic docks have a locking pin, so that is why I believe the adapters will also have that. It just has to be implemented in a different way.

Directly contradicts Ford's FAQ though:

Can anyone unlock an adapter while charging?
Just like any fast charging session, a session using an adapter can be stopped and disconnected by pushing the unlock button on the charge port. Ford is working to improve locking options for customers who may wish to leave their vehicle unattended while fast charging.

 

[Aubury]

According to the Manual, you cannot unlock the charge cable if you don't have the fob nearby. I have not verified this, as I have not needed to DCFC my Mach E.

I am curious if there is an interlock on the NACS side. Our J1772/NCAS Tesla Destination charger has that pin much like Tesla vehicles to lock the adapter to the NACS connector. You can hear it click when you pull the J1772 connector out of the holder.

Which J1772/NACS adapter do you use?

 

[AZBill]

Directly contradicts Ford's FAQ though:

Can anyone unlock an adapter while charging?
Just like any fast charging session, a session using an adapter can be stopped and disconnected by pushing the unlock button on the charge port. Ford is working to improve locking options for customers who may wish to leave their vehicle unattended while fast charging.

Someone else found in the manual that you have to have the fob or phone nearby to do that. But I am unsure if that has been verified.

 

[timbop]

Someone else found in the manual that you have to have the fob or phone nearby to do that. But I am unsure if that has been verified.

Or if the author of the manual was going of the requirements doc, and that particular requirement was missed or ignored because of "safety" in the event of a fire/electrical mishap.

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