I love my gas heat and gas water heater. And I am extremely upset that I might not have that choice in the future because of a government mandate. What happens when my water heater needs replacement? Am I going to be forced to get an electric one? The possibility that could happen makes me very angry.
Correct; equipment will not be ripped out on Jan 1, 2030. New construction will require the use of electric HVAC as well as all replacement HVAC equipment sold for existing dwellings. That kinda sucks if you don't have a big enough panel for supplemental 230V heat strips.
When was this legislation you're referring to signed? As far as I know New York State is the only one to ban natural gas in new buildings, with a restriction on gas appliance sales.
They have the same plans available as I do, except their rates for every plan is lower than what mine is. They don't have a Community Choice Aggregation, but I do and am enrolled, which brings my overall cost down by about $0.01/kwh.
You need to chill out. In 1930 they banned horse-drawn ice deliveries and I had to hook up to the killer Westinghouse grid and subject my family to AC electrical fields just to run the Kelvinstor so my raw milk wouldn’t spoil. And don’t get me started about switching from fireplaces to a coal boiler.
That's the plan when my gas furnace dies. However I may have to spend $$ to get my circuit upgraded from 100 amps to 200 amps to handle a heat pump HAVC and/or water heater. Which PGE quoted as $10k to upgrade the circuit.
Do you live in a rural area? I've upgraded the service on 2 homes (1 from 1952 and the other 1973) and didn't have to pay the utility for anything. For point of reference both were in well populated suburban towns. I did have to pay to replace the service panel inside, but that was an electrician who charged me $500 for his labor in 2008.
Yes, semi rural. House built in the 50's. Next door neighbor had their circuit upgraded last year to 200 amps. PGE billed them an upgrade fee that was several thousand, and they had to pay an electrician to pull new wires to a new panel that cost many thousands.
Wow that's exorbitant. For the circuit to the garage you could have run the line yourself and just paid for the electrician to insert the new breaker, unless you had to upgrade the panel at the time?
If I was 15 years younger and didn't have all the back & medical issues I have, I would've run it myself. Also with all the insurance companies not renewing in CA and/or jacking prices sky high, My insurance already said if any electrical work is done by a non licensed/insured electrician and results in any kind of electrical issue down the road (i.e. fire or other damage), they would not cover it. So didn't want to risk it. The local utilities had a $2k rebate for EVSE install, so that covered more than 1/2 of the overall cost.
Yeah new code requires the panel(s) to be either outdoors or in garage. Can't have panel inside a closet in the house anymore. A circuit upgrade requires updating everything else to meet code which would require moving the panel. That's why my neighbor down the street hasn't done it yet. The cost and delay from PGE. So he is carefully timing/managing his F150 charging on the 80 amp charger with other electrical use in his house at the moment.
Wow, you are old.
From what I understand, most of the banning is limited to localities and not state governments. Except for NY, like you said. However, I am fully aware that politicians in Virginia would love to follow NY's lead.
