Do we have an emergency door release if 12V battery dies?

[ArthurDOB]

Rear door inside latch incident: Daughter #1 drove the Mach E for the first time. Next day I drove the car with Daughter #2 in rear seat. As we exited the car Daughter #2 said the rear latch would not open the door. No problem, we opened the door from the outside. I went back to the car to check out latch operation and entered rear seat and closed the doors. Shit, I just locked myself in the rear seat and cannot get out. I tried unlocking with Ford Pass, nada. Tried lowering windows with Ford Pass, nada. So my choice was to crawl to the front seat, or open the rear hatch with fp. I exited via the rear hatch.
OK, time to read the owners manual. The manual showed the location of the child lock button on the left door and it was on. I also discovered I had not enabled the window open option with fp. I had never used the child lock and it was ON.

There is always this as a last resort in an emergency. You'll never be trapped.

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[rreddy3]

This is from the Ford Mach-E repair manual under "Handles, Locks, Latches and Entry Systems":

"Each door latch control module has an internal power backup, allowing the door latch release to function for approximately 20 activations or 72 hours after, a power loss (such as a disconnected or depleted battery)."

That answers my Q of whether only front or all 4 doors have the super capacitors. I’m inclined to think the rear inside double pull described in the ‘23 manual refers to how the rear door opens if the 12v battery has gone south for the winter, and not how it operates normally. Thanks

 

[JoeBeach]

Page 84 in the manual

Wrong. In my 476 page manual that page is about using the Keyless Entry Keypad. Actually after RTFM I could not find any page that told you if the 12v battery is dead you can still open with the manual handle. Of course I would find it out when I tried it but it doesn't seem to be in the FM that all the smug arrogant members say I should read. And who in the world would want to sit and read 476 pages of mostly useless information? I don't get me started about the search tool. (How many of you have the REPAIR manual?)

 

[Tha_Ape]

Wrong. In my 476 page manual that page is about using the Keyless Entry Keypad. Actually after RTFM I could not find any page that told you if the 12v battery is dead you can still open with the manual handle. Of course I would find it out when I tried it but it doesn't seem to be in the FM that all the smug arrogant members say I should read. And who in the world would want to sit and read 476 pages of mostly useless information? I don't get me started about the search tool. (How many of you have the REPAIR manual?)

Maybe I'm weird, but I read those things from front to back whenever I get a new car. As you mentioned, there's a lot of fluff in there you can quickly skim over.

I've always found cool features I likely wouldn't have known about without reading the manual.... or they show up on someone "vehicle hacks" video.

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As for the service manual, those should be included with cars. Especially after the warranty is over. I used to buy those Chilton manuals until the internet matured and I was able to find posts of the full factory service manuals. I will give Tesla credit there, they provide those for free, but there are some things in the software only the factory can adjust

 

[generaltso]

who in the world would want to sit and read 476 pages

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[Bjbena]

And who in the world would want to sit and read 476 pages of mostly useless information?

Never heard of this thing called Table of Contents, or an Index? Been around since 82 B.C. and it helps people who don't want to read an entire book to find a particular topic.

 

[rreddy3]

There are two on-line versions of the owner's manual I've found for the 23 MME. One is HTML format; the other is PDF. It's possible that pagination varies among the manuals for different model years. On page 81 of the 23 PDF manual there is a hyperlink to the E-Latch video. At about 1m25s the topic of opening the front door from the inside appears. I haven't found that description written in the PDF or HTML manuals, although that doesn't mean it's not there.

There is, as everyone knows, the manual accessible from the center display screen in the car. That looks to me to be the same as the on-line HTML version. I've only looked at it a couple of times in passing, more out of curiosity than any real search for information.

There is also a little booklet that came with my car. It's called the Mustang Mach - E - 2023 / Quick Reference Guide. It's easy to overlook this glossy little item which I think is an underappreciated hidden gem.

Page 10 of this booklet includes the following:

"OPENING THE DOOR FROM INSIDE YOUR VEHICLE To open, pull the inside door release pull handle. The door unlatches and opens a little. If battery power is completely depleted, pull the handle all the way back and it unlatches mechanically."

There is a lot of information available about these cars in print and on video, and of course on the forum. Finding it is, for me at least, a bit like a treasure hunt. That said, I'm not going to gratuitously trash Ford or the technical writers responsible for any of these documents although I think the organization and verbiage could be improved. Writing clearly and concisely is not easy.

"That's all I have to say about that." (quote from that great American philosopher, Forrest Gump)

 

[ipca204]

Wrong. In my 476 page manual that page is about using the Keyless Entry Keypad. Actually after RTFM I could not find any page that told you if the 12v battery is dead you can still open with the manual handle. Of course I would find it out when I tried it but it doesn't seem to be in the FM that all the smug arrogant members say I should read. And who in the world would want to sit and read 476 pages of mostly useless information? I don't get me started about the search tool. (How many of you have the REPAIR manual?)

Hi, smug guy here who says you should RTFM. Just because you could not find it, does not mean it isn't there! Have a great day!

 

[ChehRob]

Manual is 500 pages long. While well written, it still leaves a lot of ambiguities.

 

[garyd9]

Manual is 500 pages long. While well written, it still leaves a lot of ambiguities.

It's well written? My favorite passage is: "Engine damage can occur if water enters the air filter."

 

[DennisD]

It's well written? My favorite passage is: "Engine damage can occur if water enters the air filter."

Is there a video that talks about that?

I don't like reading and I am not at work.

 

[Snakebitten]

My 93 year old dad has asked me a few times over the last 30 years "now son, tell me again what you do for a living?"

Everytime I have replied "Dad, I'm the guy who reads the manual" ?

And yes, I have that factory service manual for the Powerboost (18,500 pages) and the Mach-E (14,000 pages) too. I mean, you gotta find out how some of this stuff works, right? Or at least if you want to avoid being at the mercy of some yahoo at the dealership making it up as he/she goes.

Having said all that, you won't find me telling anyone else what they SHOULD do. In fact, how would I have fed my family and put the kids through school if everybody else read the manual too?

 

[rreddy3]

My 93 year old dad has asked me a few times over the last 30 years "now son, tell me again what you do for a living?"

Everytime I have replied "Dad, I'm the guy who reads the manual" ?

And yes, I have that factory service manual for the Powerboost (18,500 pages) and the Mach-E (14,000 pages) too. I mean, you gotta find out how some of this stuff works, right? Or at least if you want to avoid being at the mercy of some yahoo at the dealership making it up as he/she goes.

Having said all that, you won't find me telling anyone else what they SHOULD do. In fact, how would I have fed my family and put the kids through school if everybody else read the manual too?

A little off topic, did you get the “official” Ford authorized manual (I may not be using the same terms as Ford uses) or one of the third party ones? I’ve read mixed reviews of some third party manuals. Thanks

 

[Snakebitten]

The one that is scraped from PTS/Oasis. (PDF format)
It will even include your VIN ownership/Oasis information, including extended warranty, if you purchased Ford's.

But I admit that the Mach-E isn't as explanatory about a lot of things, as the truck's is.

 

[Jerrytball]

Jump to 1:30 :

Maybe my question is stupid, but if your battery dies, and your inside the car, or the battery doesn’t die don’t use the same latch to get out of the car every day. I don’t know any other way to get out of the car.??

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