Possibly Buy Mach-E Premium RWD

[Mr88cet]

We are strongly considering buying a Mach-E Premium RWD (big battery). We’ll be asking the salesman these questions shortly, but I’d really like to hear answers from actual owners like you folks! If any of you have a few moments to answer these questions we’d much appreciate your time. Thanks!

• Realistically, how much range can we expect at temperatures of 40F, 72F, and 100F, with reasonable levels of climate control and pretty-conservative driving style?
• We can use Tesla Superchargers now (if we have the NACS adaptor), right? Does the adaptor limit charging speed?
• We can still use Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc, right? That is, Ford striking a deal with Tesla didn’t PO Electrify America or something crazy like that, right?
• How hot does the frunk get in 95-degree weather? On the one hand, it’s not ventilated, so it should be hotter than outside, but on the other hand, it’s not exposed to sunlight either, so hmmm…
• Please tell me about the reliability or not of your Mach-E…?

Thanks again!

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[leehinde]

• We can use Tesla Superchargers now (if we have the NACS adaptor), right? Does the adaptor limit charging speed?

Some people have reported that EA is quicker. But Tesla is fast enough.

• We can still use Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc, right? That is, Ford striking a deal with Tesla didn’t PO Electrify America or something crazy like that, right?

No one has gone away in spite.…

• Please tell me about the reliability or not of your Mach-E…?

15 months in and no problems (past a few minor annoyances.).

 

[ToOldForThis]

I think you are on the right track, going with RWD and the big battery. The one regret I have with mine, is that it is AWD, which I don't really need. I would much rather have the additional range of RWD. But since I was buying used, I had to go with best deal I could find at the time, which happened to be AWD.

 

[Mr88cet]

Thanks, leehinde!

Anybody have some reasonable-estimate numbers from experience for range at temperature?

 

[garyd9]

We are strongly considering buying a Mach-E Premium RWD (big battery). We’ll be asking the salesman these questions shortly, but I’d really like to hear answers from actual owners like you folks! If any of you have a few moments to answer these questions we’d much appreciate your time. Thanks!

• Realistically, how much range can we expect at temperatures of 40F, 72F, and 100F, with reasonable levels of climate control and pretty-conservative driving style?
• We can use Tesla Superchargers now (if we have the NACS adaptor), right? Does the adaptor limit charging speed?
• We can still use Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc, right? That is, Ford striking a deal with Tesla didn’t PO Electrify America or something crazy like that, right?
• How hot does the frunk get in 95-degree weather? On the one hand, it’s not ventilated, so it should be hotter than outside, but on the other hand, it’s not exposed to sunlight either, so hmmm…
• Please tell me about the reliability or not of your Mach-E…?

Thanks again!

Range: You'll probably get close to the window sticker reported mileage for combined highway/city driving. If you do more highway, a bit less. If you do mostly all city, a bit more. At 40F, assuming you use the car's heater, you'll probably lose around 10-15%.

Tesla: Yes you can use V3 and V4 SC's. No, you won't experience any unusual charging speed limitations.

EA, etc: Yes, you can still use the other charging stations.

Frunk: I think someone measured that it will get 20F over ambient temperature due to the coolant tubes that run hot liquid very close to it. That might have been a temperature while the car is moving. (I haven't had occassion to measure it myself.)

Reliability: Only had mine for about 6 weeks, but it's been great for me so far.

 

[Mr88cet]

I think you are on the right track, going with RWD and the big battery.

Good to hear. Thanks, ToOldForThis!

FWIW, I’ve posed my frunk-temperature question to owners of Mach-Es and Teslas. The most common response has been “no idea; I never use it”…

 

[VaporTrails]

It doesn’t really answer your question, but I can drive 2.5 hours in my 2023GTPE at highway speeds before I choose to recharge. I understand you want a number, but nobody road-trips at 100%. They typically bounce between the 80’s and the teens. Your RWD long-range will almost certainly hit 3-3.5 hours between recharges. The Mustang Mach-e is mid-pack on range. The biggest range hit is in colder weather below 45. The less you can run the resistance heater, the better your range will be. You could lose 1/3 to 1/2 of your range in cold weather. The Mustang Mach-e does not currently have a heat pump, which would help in the 30’s and 40’s.

I typically use EA, ChargePoint, and Tesla chargers on my regional road trips. I use my own adapter or a MagicDock on the Tesla network. The Mustang Mach-e is not one of the faster charging cars, and the adapter does not change that. General consensus is that the Tesla network typically performs slightly better than the EA network. Tesla is also more expensive.

The Frunk is where I put fast food to keep it warm. I have a GTPE, so it has a toasty front motor. The Frunk is not insulated. I would expect it to get 10 degrees warmer than the cabin in bright sun. I put ice in it only for car shows. The ice is gone by the time the show ends.

 

[Mr88cet]

Way awesome, Garyd9. Thanks. Not surprisingly, I was mostly concerned about the heater. The heat pump in our current car, a Prius Prime, uses only slightly more than the air conditioner uses, which is not much.

 

[AngryMan]

Thanks, leehinde!

Anybody have some reasonable-estimate numbers from experience for range at temperature?

I thought you'd never ask

2023GT AWD (270 EPA range ).....now I use climate control sparingly .
IF this for for around town AC/heat probably won't kill yer range too much .
Speed , climate controls , temperature are all working against your range so take that into account

 

[Mr88cet]

Thanks for the reply, VaporTrails.

My off-the-cuff recollection, from Out-of-Spec Reviews, is that the Mach-E’s charging curve starts out pretty quick, but unlike the Ioniq 5 and EV6, tails off substantially after 10-15 minutes.

 

[SyNRG]

Thanks, leehinde!

Anybody have some reasonable-estimate numbers from experience for range at temperature?

We have a 2021 Select RWD Standard Range (230 epa) has been extremely reliable (will be 3 years in a few months, 30,689 miles), no major issues. Minor stuff yes.

From our anecdotal experience here in SoCal, for how long we've had the car, temps in the winter has been down to high 30s to low - mid 40s here and I've observed a range lost of 20% - 30%. We have not observed any range loss in the warmer months unless I'm driving (I drive it like I stole it) vs my wife who's more conservative/normal.

 

[Mr88cet]

I thought you'd never ask

A data addict! Thanks!

 

[Mr88cet]

So, roughly what kinds of 10-80% charging times have you folks seen on 350KW EA stations? How about 150KW?

 

[Mr88cet]

We are strongly considering buying a Mach-E Premium RWD (big battery). …

As of right now, the Mach-E’s main competition is the Q4 eTron. Its main advantage is its smooth and quiet ride, and its exceptionally-well-designed interior and instrument panel. The Mach-E’s main advantage it the obvious one: Access to the Tesla Supercharger network. However, BlueCruise is another sizable advantage.

Any comments on that?

 

[garyd9]

As of right now, the Mach-E’s main competition is the Q4 eTron. Its main advantage is its smooth and quiet ride, and its exceptionally-well-designed interior and instrument panel. The Mach-E’s main advantage it the obvious one: Access to the Tesla Supercharger network. However, BlueCruise is another sizable advantage.

Any comments on that?

Doesn't the Q4 have some type of assisted driving? From a quick look on a website (https://electrichasgoneaudi.net/models/q4-e-tron/technology/drivingassistance/), it appears it has most of the same features as the Mach-E, perhaps without the hands-free aspect.

(...and the "hands-free" aspect of ford's blue cruise is massively overpriced for something that's not 100% reliable. It's usually easier to just keep a hand on the steering wheel.)

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