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so.... sounds like the hardware changes in 2024 are a combination of better motor, and improved cooling/heating lines for temperature management in motors and battery tray. So, not realistic to expect as a retro-fit upgrade to any previous model years.

I am somewhat surprised by the decision to charge $1000 for a software 'unlock' to access the extra power.
Oddly, the upgrade didn't address whether the governor switch is also pushed back a few seconds. If the Y still spanks the MMEGTPE by the 1/4 mile post, the guys going to the track might be even MORE disappointed then before.

Odd - Ive read mixed explanations for the 21-23 model years. Given that the '21 was $60 for a GT and $65+ for the PE and the '24 ia around $55, you would think if the upgrade can come to the earlier models, then you'll have more holding onto their vwhucles past the 36 or 48 month Ford Options.
 

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Like I said (a couple years ago) we could improve pre-2024 MMEs by putting a chill plate under/in the HVBJB... and temperature sensors right on the known hot spots, but would still need a software change to ALLOW more power thru.

ah well, I didn't buy my MME to race it, I bought it to be a 'fun' everyday SUV work vehicle with lots of cargo space, AWD for the back roads I work on and ski season, and decent performance and range.
and let’s be completely fine with a 0.2s 0-60s performance difference between pre-2024 GTPE and the GT with performance upgrade package.

For bragging rights 0-60 in 3.3s sounds cool and racing 1/4 mile means a lot, but I very much doubt the driver would notice that difference.
 

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My Mach e is a premium so I don't have a horse in this race, but I think this kind of business model sucks and I'd be pissed if I was a GT owner. You already paid for the hardware, and now Ford is holding the full performance hostage behind a big upcharge just to turn it on. Piss off...
I disagree. For one, 2021-2023 MME have two GT models. The GT and the GTPE. Both have different tq, horsepower and 0-60 specs. The GTPE was more expensive.

Now there is only GT and if you want the “PE” option you pay $1000 OTA software update.

The difference between model years only lies in upgrades in hardware components being the limitations.

I think it is totally valid. As a 2022 GTPE owner I’d love a quicker car and would pay the $1000 if available, but it’s simply a hardware limitation and I already paid for that upgrade when I bought new since I didn’t get a GT but rather the GTPE
 

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I’d notice the performance difference. Ideally more mid range/top end would be nice. Even for 23’ & older, just removing more of the power limits & slight boost would be great.
 


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This still doesn’t answer the question.

We know the 2021-2023 owners don’t have the hardware necessary for 700 tq (the new motors).

What we want to know is when will we get what was promised to us a year ago when Darren Palmer said “we will change that limit OTA,” when asked about the power limits that 2021-2023 GT owners have above 72 mph and after a few seconds of full throttle acceleration.

We want the power we paid for 3 years ago and were promised would be fixed a year ago.

And on a related note, we don’t want to pay extra for it.

Now if you have the capability to increase the tq and horsepower on a 2021-2023, that I would gladly pay for.

But for now I’ll settle for us getting what was promised and changing the power limiters.
This is really what I (we) want. The car is PLENTY fast 0-60. The extra passing power at speed (that we all know is there) is really what I (we) are looking for
 

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If you ordered a 2024 Mustang Mach-E GT or are thinking about ordering one, we are giving you the flexibility to choose when you want to access the optional Performance Upgrade. This can be selected at vehicle purchase or access it seamlessly via the FordPass app via a one-time purchase for $995 plus tax once you have taken delivery of your vehicle. This means you don’t have to decide upfront if you want to purchase the Performance Upgrade and can activate it whenever you’re ready to boost the performance of your GT.

To activate the Performance Upgrade, simply go to the FordPass app and then navigate to the Connected Services tab. Click on the Performance Upgrade tile. Once you complete the transaction the upgrade will be installed in less than 5 minutes, and you can enjoy all that the upgrade enables. Note, this is non-transferrable to another VIN.

The Performance Upgrade enables 2024 Mustang Mach-E GT vehicle to:
  • Add additional 100 lb.-ft of torque for a total of 700 lb.-ft.*
  • 0-60 mph in 3.3. seconds, which is down from 3.8 seconds without the upgrade. It is also faster than both the Tesla Model Y Performance and the Porsche Macan 4 Electric.**
  • 11.8 seconds at 114 MPH through the quarter mile
Check out this video showing you how to access the Performance Upgrade via the FordPass app:

And, here is the Performance Upgrade in action:

*Calculated via peak performance of the electric motor(s) at peak battery power. Your results may vary.

**Ford test data based on typical industry methodology using 1-ft rollout. Your results may vary. Tested with optional Summer tires.
Ordered one the beginning of May, still waiting to hear that it's on the production schedule...I might get excited about this when I hear the news that it's being assembled!
 
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because it is built with the required hardware to enable
You, and every other car company, can shove subscriptions to un-cripple the equipment already existing in a vehicle up your big, blue oval.

If it's in the vehicle when purchased, it should operate. If it doesn't, it's a warranty repair until it does.
 

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Trust me, Ford isn't worried about the business (customers) they already got, not when they're loosing over $4B a year on Model-E. They're worried (or at least they should be worried) about those customers staying with the brand once they can make profitable EVs.

@Ford Motor Company
Ford does not care about customers at all. I have never had “customer service” do less than Fords did when my 21 gtpe had the hvbjb fail earlier this year and spend 3.5 months in the shop.

Between the lack of support and lacking performance of the gtpe I’ve really been left feeling like purchasing a Ford was a fiscally irresponsible move.
 

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I don’t know about going for a 2024 but if this is something in the pipe for Ford in 2025, I’m interested!
 

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The least that us lesser GT&GTPE owners now comparatively should get is a future update, unlock a few extra kw in the battery, remove the limiter and change the volts and amps and at least give us a little increase. I know we don’t have the upgraded motor/cooling but anything is better than nothing.
 

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I don’t know about going for a 2024 but if this is something in the pipe for Ford in 2025, I’m interested!
Likely just another CGI or AI rendering.

Looks cool in that video, but I don’t think that is what is under this Puma camouflage:
Ford Mustang Mach-E FordPass App: 2024 Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Upgrade Option IMG_0644
 

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That ^^ is reality right there. Another round model Y looking CUV. Cant wait.
 

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Ah, still the eternal optimist. Ford has been pretty clear with this, they could, they would, but they won’t. Why? Because they already got you.

All that to be said, the 24 GT is significantly less expensive MSRP wise than the 21 GTPE, so for the people who are getting a 24 GT, why wouldn’t you kick down the grand for improved performance? Wouldn’t matter to me that it’s a software tune. Still ends up being cheaper than a GTPE of previous years, and you get the Magnaride suspension standard.
You might be right, but Ford is stuck in the 80s if they're thinking that way.

Part of the reason for me buying a Mach-E (or any EV) was the promise of continual improvements. If Ford is going to orphan their vehicles post-sale, I'll look elsewhere when it's time to replace my '22. I say that as someone who currently owns 4 Fords.
 

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2024s are also starting with the improved HVBJB.
I thought I read on the forum that the bus bars were thicker as well. Maybe I imagined that. ?‍♂?
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