True only reason I would buy a ICE eco-boost Mustang is because it’s around 40 and I’d probably buy it used and get it less than that. The coyote is just getting out of control and I have had many 5.0’s.
The cheapest models are the long range RWD Model 3 and Y that are mid $30k with the federal tax credit, even lower with potential state incentives. AWD isn’t much more. It’s right in line with a Toyota Camry and barely more than the 2025 Maverick. I highly doubt that their new EV platform will be undercutting the cost of the ICE Maverick on any vehicle they plan to sell profitably, so it will very likely be in line with Tesla’s current prices.
You don’t think Ford is going to try to use the tax credit to help the price of their EVs either?? Then why are they going through the trouble of moving Mach-E battery production to Michigan to get it back? I agree that it’s corporate welfare but it’s also a real and significant factor in the purchase price of an EV for a buyer. I was ignoring the gas savings stuff Tesla toggles on.
Except that the MSRP and the tax credits are not independent. Tax credits disappear, demand goes down, manufacturer's reduce their pricing.
Average vehicle cost…not car.
Sure, but for anyone considering an EV, the comparison between a Model 3 and a base model Camry is laughable while the net cost is within 10%. I'd consider the Model 3 both vert affordable and very good value.
We don't want a 3rd row SUV. We want a vehicle that holds 6 people. Since all the vehicles have eliminated 3 across front seating, that means we need a 3rd row SUV.
Well, yeah, this is true!
You have to admit Ford is sounding a lot like Tesla with their announcements these days:
Americans don't go to home depot or hunt deer everyday, but they do buy pickup trucks in massive numbers... they want them. And importantly, the imports are not competitive in that space nor are they going to be.... partly because the Koreans and the Europeans don't buy them so they are not world market vehicles.
Magic batteries are not coming anytime soon... sorry.
I mean - I think probably most people want a vehicle where the 6th passenger as an at least close to equal probability of survival as everyone else in the car.
The Kia EV9 would fit the bill, and the exterior looks sexy as hell. Plus the 800v faster charging. I’ve never sat in a Kia EV, though, so unsure what interior quality would be like.
