I was considering a plug-in hybrid

[Jerrytball]

So the fact that I have 6000 miles on my 23 GT in excellent condition and everything is working on it plus I’ve added a few things to it. I figured even though I owe 32,000 on it 0% loan, I thought for sure I could get it paid off, but went to the dealer that I bought the car from to look at a $42,000 plug-in escape oh my God anyways the best they’ll do is 30 and so I looked at Carvana, Carvana will give me 36,200 and if I did a trade-in through Carvana, they would give me 39,000 and some change. so Mitsubishi has some pretty good looking plans out there and that outlander plug-in hybrid it’s a pretty good looking car and has some nice options. I went and looked at it, very comfortable and they had a lot of different incentives and everything but the best they would do was 16,000 trade and I’m like I almost fell over. And their excuse was they’ve got these mustangs over in another state like mine just sitting there on the lot $20,000 and I said well I haven’t seen any at that price and I said to offer me 16 is just absolutely Ludacris. So I guess what I’m gonna do is just hang onto my car, pay off, not ahead of time just keep making payments and deal with anything that comes up if it fails at all, which I’m hoping it doesn’t, kind of why I was wanting to go with plug-in hybrid to maybe move to something more maybe not reliable but maybe wouldn’t have as many issues as the Mustang, not mine now, but many others out here on the forum. So I’m hanging onto it.

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[YeOldeTraveller]

Others may disagree, but I would go with a non-plugin hybrid if you are not going BEV. I see a PHEV as compromised relative to either a BEV or a HEV. Electric range is restricted and your mileage is reduced once the battery is depleted.

There are some real nice hybrids out available, and they provide most of the benefits of a hybrid drivetrain. They will likely also be cheaper than the similar PHEV.

If reliability is the issue, a hybrid may not be better than a BEV. You have both parts of the drivetrain, and many models require both parts to be working before the car is allowed to start.

All that said, there are use cases where a PHEV is exactly the correct solution.

 

[Jerrytball]

Others may disagree, but I would go with a non-plugin hybrid if you are not going BEV. I see a PHEV as compromised relative to either a BEV or a HEV. Electric range is restricted and your mileage is reduced once the battery is depleted.

There are some real nice hybrids out available, and they provide most of the benefits of a hybrid drivetrain. They will likely also be cheaper than the similar PHEV.

If reliability is the issue, a hybrid may not be better than a BEV. You have both parts of the drivetrain, and many models require both parts to be working before the car is allowed to start.

All that said, there are use cases where a PHEV is exactly the correct solution.

It’s not a showstopper, but I’m trying not to waste the $2000. I have involved in the level two charger hanging on my wall outside lol I am hoping, but if I went with a straight hybrid, not plug-in, I’d have to get a really good price and a good trade

 

[macchiaz-o]

Congrats on making a decision to buy a car six months ago and then sticking with it all the way through to today and maybe even a few more years!

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[macchiaz-o]

I don't understand how your loan principal balance relates to current resale pricing or the decision to buy or sell.

When I purchased my Mustang, CarMax had the best offer for my existing car so that's who got my Fiesta. Trade ins are never required during car purchase negotiations. I'd recommend largely ignoring it as part of car purchase and try to think of it as a separate, optional transaction.

 

[Jerrytball]

I don't understand how your loan principal balance relates to current resale pricing or the decision to buy or sell.

When I purchased my Mustang, CarMax had the best offer for my existing car so that's who got my Fiesta. Trade ins are never required during car purchase negotiations. I'd recommend largely ignoring it as part of car purchase and try to think of it as a separate, optional transaction.

Well, when you try to sell a car like this to a private owner, for instance as good as shape as mine as 40,000 would be a fair price so you would think if you could take it to a dealer they might at least give you 32 or 33 for the car But to not even offer you half of what you paid for the car six months ago is more than ridiculous to me. I try to give the dealership a chance for my business and since I bought my last vehicle from them, I figured it might be the easiest way to do it , but the fact that I’ve seen like that then I would just sell mine to Carvana pay it off extra $5000 profit from that sale and then go out and Lisa vehicle for $200 a month less than what I zero finance this last car . if you’d like to continue to beat me up over this that’s fine. I’m trying to figure out how to delete this thread if there’s an administrator just delete it because I don’t need the hassle. I just had heart surgery last night and I was just trying to try a few different things today, don’t work financially I’m not doing anything but keeping my car

 

[macchiaz-o]

Heal up and get better soon, Jerry. I wish you the best!

I'm not wanting to argue about buying and selling. Mostly I'm just curious about how others go about it, and why. (We're all different.) It sounds like you're looking for a lower monthly payment which I hadn't realized until you mentioned it.

 

[Jerrytball]

Heal up and get better soon, Jerry. I wish you the best!

I'm not wanting to argue about buying and selling. Mostly I'm just curious about how others go about it, and why. (We're all different.) It sounds like you're looking for a lower monthly payment which I hadn't realized until you mentioned it.

Thank you I’m sorry I’m getting frustrated but it’s just I saw a thread out here this morning where this guy sold his 22 or 21 mustang to somebody for $40,000 and I’m like holy shit I had to be able to get that in trade at the dealer and for them to tell me $30,000 today And I was willing to buy another car from them and do a lease so would be the best way for me to go to get a lower payment I can afford the payment. I have right now. I would just like to get something lower and be able to utilize my level two charger , the fact that they show me and then they don’t even pay off my car the extra 2000 and then they tell me to put down $4000 and then the payments are gonna be 750 on an escape. Are you kidding me so when I saw the Mitsubishi and talk to him, they were all positive but then when he came back and said we can give you 16,000 I’m like forget that , just put your car through Carvana 36,200 for the car and then if you trade it on Carvana they give you a 39,000 but you’re getting mostly used cars but I have bought three cars from Carvana and their cars are always great shape. But I figure the easiest way to do it would just be take the 36,000 that would pay off my loan that would give me an extra $4000 in my pocket and then go out and lease a car because I like to change cars out every two years and I could probably get something under $480 a month when I’m paying now I can’t afford it. I’m just wanting to hang onto my charger.

 

[Jerrytball]

Heal up and get better soon, Jerry. I wish you the best!

I'm not wanting to argue about buying and selling. Mostly I'm just curious about how others go about it, and why. (We're all different.) It sounds like you're looking for a lower monthly payment which I hadn't realized until you mentioned it.

See I’m very active guy golfer, motorcycle rider, hot rods look at my Jerrytballl profile on TikTok. You’ll see some of my stuff. My wife has early dementia and that’s been a challenge because I no longer can play golf. I can’t have two cars like I used to there’s a guy that sells Harley Davidson for $3800 that are in excellent condition. I’d love to buy one and just have it to run around the neighborhood on, but it’s always no no no and being a Sagittarius telling me to hold back and give up everything that you love one source of me wanting to change things. I don’t know before this Mustang I ordered a loaded out California special 2024. ICE but while I was waiting, I have to be built. I accidentally drove this darn electric Mustang and fell in love with it. One reason was it was a compromise. She likes SUVs I like sports cars so I was trying to get something that might satisfied both of us. I started reading all the nightmares on here, but luckily I’ve got one of the good Mustang that has really only had one problem where I wasn’t getting updates. They replaced that module and I get updates all the time now and you know people make fun of me putting my string on there, but to open the door in case you get locked out, but It’s more now than a necessity. I just leave it on there just to see what people ask me about.

 

[Billyk24]

Others may disagree, but I would go with a non-plugin hybrid if you are not going BEV. I see a PHEV as compromised relative to either a BEV or a HEV. Electric range is restricted and your mileage is reduced once the battery is depleted.

There are some real nice hybrids out available, and they provide most of the benefits of a hybrid drivetrain. They will likely also be cheaper than the similar PHEV.

If reliability is the issue, a hybrid may not be better than a BEV. You have both parts of the drivetrain, and many models require both parts to be working before the car is allowed to start.

All that said, there are use cases where a PHEV is exactly the correct solution.

My other vehicle is a 2016 Toyota Rav4 hybrid with 114 000 miles. My third hybrid/Phev prior to the Mach e. Brakes, oil changes. Filters. Wipers and tires only real expense for 100,000 miles. Reliability has been top notch for these hybrid vehicles for 100 000 miles.

 

[YeOldeTraveller]

My other vehicle is a 2016 Toyota Rav4 hybrid with 114 000 miles. My third hybrid/Phev prior to the Mach e. Brakes, oil changes. Filters. Wipers and tires only real expense for 100,000 miles. Reliability has been top notch for these hybrid vehicles for 100 000 miles.

I only mentioned that as a consideration. My 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid did well over 200K miles before I replaced it.

 

[Jerrytball]

I only mentioned that as a consideration. My 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid did well over 200K miles before I replaced it.

If I did do something just from what I’m looking at $16,000 offered by Mitsubishi. $30,000 offered by my original Ford dealer that sold me the car six months ago and just now I did the local Honda dealer online. They want to give 29,600 or 31,000 in great shape which mine is in great shape. If I wanted to do anything since I owe 32 on my car, I would probably just sell my car to Carvana for 36,200 and then go and find a good lease either a regular hybrid or a plug-in hybrid if I still want to utilize my plug/level two but right now, I’m just gonna hold onto the mustang it’s running great. It’s performing great Mustang rides like Mustang and Wife being a little older, sometimes she complains about the stiff ride, but I don’t wanna go and put any kind of suspension system on it .

 

[DustyShades]

You lost me when you said you wanted the Mitsubishi and then proceeded to call it a great car. Everything else, sure - I disagree with you, but everyone’s tastes and situations are different. The Mitsubishi part was just a step too far though

 

[Jerrytball]

You lost me when you said you wanted the Mitsubishi and then proceeded to call it a great car. Everything else, sure - I disagree with you, but everyone’s tastes and situations are different. The Mitsubishi part was just a step too far though

When I said it was a great car. I just meant that it was designed pretty well. It had a pretty neat look very aggressive. Look compared to a Murano or rogue. I think it’s rated as one of the top plug-in hybrids that’s fine. I hate Corvettes. they look OK but I like the look of a gas powered mustang better. I think it’s more reliable so to each their own I could’ve seen the future 06 I should’ve bought a Ford GT 500 that looks like a Corvette and then sold it for $1 million now lol

 

[Jerrytball]

You lost me when you said you wanted the Mitsubishi and then proceeded to call it a great car. Everything else, sure - I disagree with you, but everyone’s tastes and situations are different. The Mitsubishi part was just a step too far though

As far as the Mitsubishi, I’m a little biased too, my wife’s from Japan . I’ve just experienced anything from Japan is always some pretty good quality. They are associated with Nissan to. I’ve owned a few Datsuns and Nissan.

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