Car Charging from my charger but will not recognize that it has done so on locations.

[ChehRob]

My iPhone detects GPS and gives me latitude and longitude in underground garage, but the car can't. I also had trouble with my Good to Go pass for state highway tolls, as well as the similar pass to open the condo door garage.

Our Wall Box chargers are not the smart versions. I am not sure why we chose that, it may have been that the HOA and installers need to maintain stricter control over charging than having each resident being able to 'customize' charging.

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[RickMachE]

My iPhone detects GPS and gives me latitude and longitude in underground garage, but the car can't. I also had trouble with my Good to Go pass for state highway tolls, as well as the similar pass to open the condo door garage.

The iPhone isn't your car.

The toll pass has nothing to do with this, nor the condo garage transponder, both of which need to be mounted in the dotted areas on either side of the mirror. They don't use GPS. Apples and bananas.

 

[RonOinAZ]

My iPhone detects GPS and gives me latitude and longitude in underground garage...

Your phone may be updating its Lat/Lon when you're in an underground garage, but attributing the updates to GPS satellite transmissions is likely to be a misunderstanding since the weak GPS signals can't penetrate buildings.

This is what Gemini AI says about it:
iPhones can use both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth to approximate your location even when a GPS signal is unavailable, relying on nearby networks and devices to triangulate your position; this is particularly useful for indoor locations where GPS might not penetrate well.

 

[ChehRob]

The obvious point is that the inside of the car has difficulty with the garage pass and the goodtogo pass. those metallic coatings on the windows block weak radio signals. I have the same problem with the metallic coatings on our condo window. All of this is above ground. The newer ferries had that problem with their windows too.

From March until September I could set my home charger to stop at 90%. For me that is a new problem. That is what confused me. It is a New problem.

 

[RickMachE]

The obvious point is that the inside of the car has difficulty with the garage pass and the goodtogo pass. those metallic coatings on the windows block weak radio signals. I have the same problem with the metallic coatings on our condo window. All of this is above ground. The newer ferries had that problem with their windows too.

Are these passes / devices being put into the black dots on either side of the rear view mirror? That is the ONLY place that isn't blocked...

 

[Shayne]

My iPhone detects GPS and gives me latitude and longitude in underground garage, but the car can't. I also had trouble with my Good to Go pass for state highway tolls, as well as the similar pass to open the condo door garage.

Our Wall Box chargers are not the smart versions. I am not sure why we chose that, it may have been that the HOA and installers need to maintain stricter control over charging than having each resident being able to 'customize' charging.

The reason for not a smart charger is it really does nothing for you but help trouble shoot. I looked at it as more useless tech when the car is working. It can track electrons which is not rocket science mathematics and who cares as they are going in anyway.

Do you have outside outlets around the building? Plug the ford mobile into a 120V at your building outside as close to where you go in as possible and see if it locals you. Set that locations charging schedule if it works and then see if you can fool it in the basement.

EDIT: A way around this is if the default charge was a schedule and was editable.

 

[ChehRob]

My passes have always been in the proper location on the windshield. Neither the Good-to-Go pass nor the similar garage door opener pass work well. The former only works reliably because the license plane number is now attached to the GTG pass number. The garage pass worked on the RAV4 from about 30 feet away, on the MME, 8 feet. I stand by my statement that the car does not communicate well with some electronic signals.

I also know that my iPhone is not the car. The iPhone shows latitude and longitude, and the poster who explained that his may be a synthetic calculation, not true GPS, was helpful. That sounds plausible.

Finally, my confusion, from that older post on this issue is legitimate. From March until September, I could put that 90% limit on my home charger. Starting in September I could no longer do so. I think my suspicion that it is related to a Ford update is legitimate.

I also found it annoying that my dealership had no idea regarding any of this. I expect some competence from them, along with some sympathy that those service workers obviously have not received appropriate training.

 

[Shayne]

^^^ did you try what I mentioned above? Plugging into a 120V above ground at your building and seeing if it locates you? This could help pin point the problem. P2 is 2 floors down and we assume concrete slabs with fill all around? Being able to schedule the default is the for sure fix but requires Ford to program it and they are off doing karaoke.

 

[ChehRob]

I haven't been out for a few days, but shall try this. I enter the garage at a x00 and my garage slot/charger is at an x95, my USPS address is in-between.

I think my 'parking' neighbor still has her 120 charger but she would lend it it to me. First to find an above ground 120v source, how long an extension cord could safely be used for a short charge?

Her charging cord is 25 feet, and she had to use one of my adjoining parking slots to reach her Kia, so my visitors if that slot was full knew to use hers. Her unit is in front of my garage level which is otherwise underground on three sides. Waterfront steep bank.

Shayne - thanks, I am going to try to set all that up, but it will take time. Everything in our overly complex building takes time.

 

[Shayne]

I haven't been out for a few days, but shall try this. I enter the garage at a x00 and my garage slot/charger is at an x95, my USPS address is in-between.

I think my 'parking' neighbor still has her 120 charger but she would lend it it to me. First to find an above ground 120v source, how long an extension cord could safely be used for a short charge?

Her charging cord is 25 feet, and she had to use one of my adjoining parking slots to reach her Kia, so my visitors if that slot was full knew to use hers. Her unit is in front of my garage level which is otherwise underground on three sides. Waterfront steep bank.

Shayne - thanks, I am going to try to set all that up, but it will take time. Everything in our overly complex building takes time.

It is 120V so I would not care about extension cord length to any great extent if it works. You just need to plug in get it to start charging and see if it shows up. The efficiency of 120V is not that important unless you are going to start always charging on L1 .

 

[ChehRob]

I have frequently complained about our WiFi in the garage, which is spotty - or so it seemed to me. Another glitch resulted in one of our two tech contractors doing some look-arounds. Turns out there was some faulty low voltage wiring which has been corrected. My iPhone now stays connected to the Wallbox. I can now turn off charging via the Wallbox. This makes for an easy work-around.

 

[Shayne]

Simple work arounds are always good. Long term may be tell the building to get wi-fi down there for EV's. The tech allows for repeaters and it could even be hardwired. It would make sense that phones work in the garage for safety reasons also.

 

[ChehRob]

We do have Wi-Fi down there now, the Wallbox has to 'tell' the main Wallbox server to unlock the charger and then monitors how much electricity I use so the HOA can bill me. Complex. Originally our board EV guy thought the problem was a handoff one, and when I went out of range of the garage Wi-Fi, and was on my unit Wi-Fi somehow Wallbox didn't like it. HOA provides both, and they are excellent.

Remember, the Car, the Wallbox, Wallbox cloud, the Ford, the Ford cloud(?), the phone, and my main computer are all 'talking', And it now turns out the car is listening to GPS. There are many possibilities of failure. Tesla has all this figured out now, but they are a lot older, as in mature softwear. Ford is getting there.

 

[ChehRob]

It turns out that the garage level Wi-Fi was only partially functioning, hence the WallBox was disconnecting from the Wi-Fi. They fixed it, and I can now turn the flow of electricity on and off from Wallbox app. Ford Pass is still a little slow at giving me the SOC, but if I turn the power off at 80% it only charges a few percent more. The only time I will leave it on overnight will be when it is schedules an update.

 

[ChehRob]

A friend with a Lightening gave me an assist on recognizing my garage stall charger. He tried the easy ways, and they did not work, then did a hard factory reset (?). We had to drive outside to do reestablish PAAK. It all took a little more than an hour, I think he could redo it now in less than 15 minutes. So I can now limit or change charging level limits.

The next day the car would not connect with the iPhone. I had driven over to the dealership to get a car wash and replacement parts for the tire repair kit. My sales guy was out in the lot, and did it for me, it took over ten minutes and required recharging and updating the phone.

They had no parts for the repair kit (price - almost $70). I can buy an entire new kit on Amazon including 12-volt inflator. Any reason not to go that route?

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