Mach E has been being serviced for over 18 months now!

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I was a pretty early member of the forum, after I pre-ordered and purchased a Job 1 Premium Edition Mach E. I took delivery in March of 2021, and anyone can see from my post history that I have been a true fan of the car. I have been more of a lurker of late but thought I would enter the fray again to share what I think is a pretty unique and unfortunate experience.

In May of 2023 I received the Powertrain Malfunction warning and took my Mach E into my local dealer. It is still there. I have not been able to drive it since. I have read a fair amount of horror stories about dealerships on the forum, and I would like to express that I feel like my dealer has treated me very well. I have received outstanding communication, service, and support from them. I truly cannot speak more highly of them and how they have handled this situation. Throughout the 18+ months, they have made sure that I have a loaner vehicle available to me and have kept me well informed. It's been an interesting stretch of getting to drive a pretty wide variety of new Ford vehicles. Their team and service manager have been outstanding.

I am not nearly as satisfied with the support that I have received from Ford corporate though. I am one of the original Mach E purchasers, put in my early reservation before the cars were being built, and I believe that I am one of the first people in Alabama to have received delivery. I wish that an early adopter and promoter of the vehicle would receive a little more love from Ford.

A couple of months back I applied for Ford's Buyback program, thinking that having been without my vehicle for over a year that might illicit some help from them. Full disclosure, my car was two years old and had 40,000 miles on it, when the Powertrain Malfunction took place, although I had experienced software issues with the car from very early on in my purchase. Ford looks heavily at the lemon law regulations in your state to determine if they will assist in a buyback. Unfortunately, Alabama's lemon law is fairly restrictive, and I was turned down by Ford. I was told that they would work with my dealer to solve my problem.

I am a couple of months later now, and I have a Ford representative who is assigned to me who tries to keep me up to date on my progress, or lack thereof. In my latest update I have been told that the "dealership is still waiting on Ford to release a software update for the vehicle repair." This has more or less been the status of my car for most of the time that it has been in service. Ford acknowledges that the problem resides with them, but seems to be fine leaving me waiting for I don't know how much longer.

Sorry for the wall of text. I was hoping to be informative and fair in my understanding of the situation. Unbelievably, I will add that I still very much love this car. It is the perfect fit for my driving needs, and I believe that my experience, as far as length of time being without my car, is an outlier and not the norm. I have no idea how much my experience with Ford corporate and their support of a customer is common or not, though. I don't have enough experience with that data to know.

I am curious what others might think. My car was two years old and had 40,000 miles on it. Does that mean I am out of luck and this is expected behavior of a corporation trying to look after their bottom line?
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Friend, I would contact a really good lemon law lawyer. You are entitled to protections of the federal lemon law regardless where you live. I’ll get you some info. See post #5.
 
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Call and chat with a Better Business Bureau about their arbitration program to see if that’s even an option. After that it’s lawyer time imo. Start with a lemon law lawyer as they should know the ins and outs better than average.

Your patience is above and beyond.
 

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I have one word for you. “Attorney”.
Get one and listen to his/her advice. You have been way too accommodating. Only two possible acceptable outcomes…,,A new vehicle equal in specifications to your failed vehicle or a full refund.
 

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Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act is the federal law that allows you to file breach of warranty claims nationwide. I hired Krohn and Moss in Chicago to represent me in a case against a Japanese OEM. They treated me well. It wasn’t a windfall or anything, but I felt like I got a fair compensation. Try calling them. If anything they might refer you to a good attorney who practices in AL.
 


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What is the actual issue? Cause things don't add up.
My understanding is that they have installed a new HBV and cannot get the software to install or sync correctly. The quote in my original post, "dealership is still waiting on Ford to release a software update for the vehicle repair," is a direct quote from the Ford rep now handling my case. This was what was recently communicated to me from Ford, but this is the same thing that the dealer has been telling me for several months now. Ford can't get the software to correctly install.
 

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The EV parts related powertrain warranty is 8 years, 100,000 miles. The non-EV parts related powertrain warranty is 5 years, 60,000 miles. Whichever the issue is, it would seem you are still under its coverage.

I agree with everyone else, you definitely should look for a lawyer, 18 months in the shop I would hope would be seen as an unreasonable amount of time waiting for a repair anywhere under the sun.
 
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My understanding is that they have installed a new HBV and cannot get the software to install or sync correctly. The quote in my original post, "dealership is still waiting on Ford to release a software update for the vehicle repair," is a direct quote from the Ford rep now handling my case. This was what was recently communicated to me from Ford, but this is the same thing that the dealer has been telling me for several months now. Ford can't get the software to correctly install.
Pull out your paperwork if possible and transcribe the summaries of work done or troubleshooting done. There are actually people here who are good at figuring out what is going on with these cars. I’m not one of them btw, but they are here and might be able to lend a hand.
 

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Baffling.
I can't imagine that there is software not yet released, that is required for a 2021 Mach-E to operate.

If that had merit, wouldn't thousands of 2021 Mach-E's be undrivable, just as they imply yours is?

I personally think your car has found itself in a black hole of apathy.
Literally, there are people who walk by the car parked where it is parked, day in and day out and have become accepting of it.
 

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Oh man, what a nightmare. I’m curious what the real issue/blocker is here because this sounds all sorts of funky. 1.5 years without your vehicle is absurd. If it’s financed I certainly hope you haven’t been required to make payments on it during this time. I hope you can get some sort of resolution soon. You are an infinitely more patient person than I am.
 

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I can't not hiring a lawyer 12 months ago, maybe 15...
 

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Just the even keel of your post after 18 months is astounding. I'd be frothing at the mouth at this point.

***YES, GO GET A LEMON LAW ATTORNEY. I may be equally shocked your dealer is loaning you different cars for 18 months. They are equally as gracious as you or they're getting reimbursed by Ford Corp.

You know the old sayings, " squeaky wheel gets the grease", and "Nice Guys Finish Last"!!!
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