Infant stuck inside the car - dead 12V battery

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So why can't the 12V be charged by the HVB? 25% battery is still quite a bit. Algorithm should prioritize 12V health.

Are we staring at a potential similar situation as the Hyundai/Kia EVs are facing in the last couple of years with their 12V Battery?

@Ford Motor Company ???
A failed 12V battery cannot be charged. It just happened to me.
 


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A failed 12V battery cannot be charged. It just happened to me.
While true, it’s Ford responsibility to inform the driver that the battery is in such bad shape that it needs replacement. Failure to do so should automatically default the fault to Ford, as we should expect a form of battery monitoring in a 60 000 dollar car.
 

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In theory the car can still open the door with a dead 12v battery if the doors are not locked.

So my general question is why is the vehicle being locked before the child is removed?
 

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The doors have back up power. it's the fact the button to the BCM doesn't talk when the 12v craps out.
 

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The story is possible, even plausible, but...
What does this mean?
When she got out of the car to go grab our infant son, the car became completely disabled. Nothing worked! The car locked and neither the key or either of our phones could unlock it.
The car was "completely disabled" (nothing worked!), but "the car locked"? Huh? How?
It locked but then it wouldn't unlock?
Color me skeptical until more information than a Reddit post shows up.
 
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They need to hurry up and add a warning when the battery is reaching the end of its life.
And an emergency key hole somewhere.
 
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The story is possible, even plausible, but...
What does this mean?

The car was "completely disabled" (nothing worked!), but "the car locked"? Huh? How?
It locked but then it wouldn't unlock?
Color me skeptical until more information than a Reddit post shows up.
We have seen these reports here. No warning, get off the car, close the door, and can't open it again. Remember that all locks are electronic.
 

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We have seen these reports here. No warning, get off the car, close the door, and can't open it again. Remember that all locks are electronic.
Except if the door isn’t locked you’re supposed to be able to double press the button and the super capacitors still open the door.

But I’m guessing someone who doesn’t know about the 12v leads to pop the frunk and is actively freaking out may not know that.
 

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And the warning says what?

"Caution, if the 12V battery reaches end of life, your Mustang Mach E can become completely disabled and possibly lock your elderly passengers, children, or pets in your car. This is especially dangerous in summer months when dangerous and life-threatening temperatures inside the vehicle can be reached within a matter of minutes."

That surely will help with sales.
A simple: “You accessory power battery (12V) is reaching end of its life. Ford recommends changing it soon to prevent potential unwanted behavior. Order service appointment here (link)”.

That way the user is informed and Ford can earn some extra bucks from those that do not want to change the battery themselves.
 

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My biggest concern is if they take the unpaid intern off the fast charging adapter replacement program and reassign them to fix this problem it's going to take even longer to get my replacement, the 2021 blucruise rollout intern is probably sweating too.
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