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Hey Ford, how about take care of the old owners first. My car's front camera fault is permanent after out of warranty. The full repair is way too costly. It is a well documented problem happening to many owners. There should be a recall for these coaxial cables and IPMA components.
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My guess is that the option for the Summers got pulled from the 2025 model after Ford’s guide text was finalized and went to print. Yes, Ford’s Marketing should have revised that claim, but the left hand at Ford doesn’t know what its pinky finger is doing. ?‍♂?
Looks like erroneously omitted and that it’ll be corrected. Good enough for me. Now I need to go source some Pirellis and sell my continental a/s.
 

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I figured a summary of all 2025 battery ranges might be helpful:
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This is very confusing. I thought the 0-60 of the Mustang Mach E GT (performance edition) was 3.5 seconds? I also thought the rally was functionally identical to the GT with just a lift kit and some plastic bits and decals. (Same motors, batteries, suspension components, tires). How can a rally have a better 0-60?
 

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Jim, while not explicitly stated by Ford, it was understood that the change is too significant to include in a model year change and that new vehicles released by 2025 (which turned out to be none) will have nacs.
Got it. Slightly disappointing as I was planning on replacing my 21 in MY 26 (the original plan was to replace it this MY but a stupid bathroom remodel got in the way ???)
 

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This is very confusing. I thought the 0-60 of the Mustang Mach E GT (performance edition) was 3.5 seconds? I also thought the rally was functionally identical to the GT with just a lift kit and some plastic bits and decals. (Same motors, batteries, suspension components, tires). How can a rally have a better 0-60?
Per build and price of 25 models, the GT is slightly faster than the Rally.

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This is very confusing. I thought the 0-60 of the Mustang Mach E GT (performance edition) was 3.5 seconds? I also thought the rally was functionally identical to the GT with just a lift kit and some plastic bits and decals. (Same motors, batteries, suspension components, tires). How can a rally have a better 0-60?
Let me try to clarify.

There is no more "Performance Edition". There's only GT and Rally.

GT 0-60 is 3.8s
GT with the optional Performance Upgrade (which can be added at purchase or added after) drops to 3.3s
Rally has the Performance Upgrade as standard, but with its tires, it's slightly slower at 3.4s.

Also, the Rally is more comprehensive than "a lift kit with plastic bits and decals." Besides the raised ride height, it has revised shocks and springs (with a retuned MagneRide", underbody protection, 235/55R19 Michelin CrossClimate tires, and a RallySport drive mode. Still not a super long list of changes, but it's definitely a different animal than the GT and not just an appearance package.
 

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This is very confusing. I thought the 0-60 of the Mustang Mach E GT (performance edition) was 3.5 seconds? I also thought the rally was functionally identical to the GT with just a lift kit and some plastic bits and decals. (Same motors, batteries, suspension components, tires). How can a rally have a better 0-60?
The Rally has a worse 0-60 since it has narrower tires than the GT. The 2024 and up GT with the performance upgrade runs 3.3 on Summer tires. The non- PU GT runs 3.8 to 60. ??
 

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I figured a summary of all 2025 battery ranges might be helpful:
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Thanks.
These are consistent with my 2022 Premium. I have the extended range but do remember the standard range was very similar.
 

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Let me try to clarify.

There is no more "Performance Edition". There's only GT and Rally.

GT 0-60 is 3.8s
GT with the optional Performance Upgrade (which can be added at purchase or added after) drops to 3.3s
Rally has the Performance Upgrade as standard, but with its tires, it's slightly slower at 3.4s.

Also, the Rally is more comprehensive than "a lift kit with plastic bits and decals." Besides the raised ride height, it has revised shocks and springs (with a retuned MagneRide", underbody protection, 235/55R19 Michelin CrossClimate tires, and a RallySport drive mode. Still not a super long list of changes, but it's definitely a different animal than the GT and not just an appearance package.
3.3 with optional summer tires, which very few dealers spec, practically speaking. So you’d either have to special order or swap after the fact (like I have to do). It’s all very confusing and loaded with fine print.

You can conclude that GTs on the roads will be of three variants:

1) 3.8 sec with a/s tires and no perf upgrade (I’d say at least half)
2) 3.x sec a/s tires and perf upgrade (probably a bit lower than half)
3) 3.3 sec with summers and perf upgrade (very few)
4) there is a forth choice but that’s not an infinitive choice that many will make
 

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Thanks.
These are consistent with my 2022 Premium. I have the extended range but do remember the standard range was very similar.
This is 23 miles higher than what my 22 eAWD ER was listed as on the window sticker:
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This is news that Apple Maps EV routing will get the ability to show Telsa locations. Will Apple Maps EV routing also get the preconditioning when en route to a charger?

What about the connected nav for older years, will there be an OTA of us?
I wonder what the delay is in rolling out Tesla locations in Connected Navigation as an OTA to 2021-2024 vehicles?
 

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Got it. Slightly disappointing as I was planning on replacing my 21 in MY 26 (the original plan was to replace it this MY but a stupid bathroom remodel got in the way ???)
Have you had any problems with using the adapter when charging at Superchargers? I'm now agnostic towards the port on the physical car, I'll be using both CCS and NACS chargers for the next decade at least.
 

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Have you had any problems with using the adapter when charging at Superchargers? I'm now agnostic towards the port on the physical car, I'll be using both CCS and NACS chargers for the next decade at least.
Not who you quoted, but I've used mine ~40 times so far and I've had no issues with parking or usability of the adapter itself. Since I'd need an adapter the other way to have the same access to chargers as we have now, I'm fine with either port on the vehicle, in fact I probably prefer CCS on the vehicle due to how many J1772 AC chargers are out in public.
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