23 GTPE vs 24 GT (Rally)

[spartan]

I don't know what the roads are like in Kentucky, but with that long of a commute I think you'll appreciate the more comfortable ride of the Rally instead of a GT. It's actually the best-riding one in the lineup.

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[Mjolsten]

Wait. More please.

The Rally drives smoother than the GT. They have programmed the suspension completely different which makes this car a blast to drive. IMO this what the car should have been from the beginning. If you are about performance and control in a vehicle the rally gives you the confidence to be crazy and safe at the same time. When you can kick out the back end of an AWD and maintain control with easy, absolute bliss. Not to mention that they geared and outfitted it to be on the dirt. You do loss just a bit of efficiency with the tires, but so worth it for ride and comfort. If you are about the drag off the line, the ‘24 gives you so much more with new motor. It doesn’t drop once you hit 80 mph. Huge improvement over the earlier models

 

[Snakebitten]

I'm not in any kind of denial.
I have no reason to doubt that the 24 Rally represents the most recent improvements. I bet I would agree that it's a refinement of the Mach-E.

But I suspect that the difference between it's Magnaride tuning and the previous Magnaride tuning isn't as dramatic as it might sound in some of the posts?

The Rally Magnaride tuning is all about "performance and control", but what was the GTPE Magnaride tuning about?

Don't get me wrong, if I were buying today, there's a 100% chance that I'd choose the newest version as long as the $value equation wasn't too lopsided. (which it currently doesn't seem to be) But I'm not so sure the difference from behind the wheel has the disparity that some are describing. It's evolutionary, no doubt. But revolutionary? ??

 

[HuntingPudel]

Is the 2026 supposed to have the bestest HVBJB?

You ruined my day. I had not seen any reports of 24 or Rally failures....I was meaning to ask.

The 2026 would just be out of when my Options plan is ending (December ‘25). No clue as to when another generation of the HVBJB will come out. Depending on when order banks open, I may be stuck ordering a 2025 in order to meet the timing on my Options contract. I just don’t want a 2025 since a few weeks after ownership it’d take a value loss due to calendar years changing. ?‍?

I have seen a couple of posts about Rally’s losing their HVBJBs to this point. Hopefully those are basic infant mortality but we said that when the second generation HVBJB came out too. ??

 

[HuntingPudel]

It‘s crazy. Ford knows what to do to eliminate the HVBJB issues yet they carry on, keep replacing and ignoring the owners concerns about future failures. Ford, just fix the problem already. Hire the guy who designed the HVBJB for the Lightning. Enough already!!!

There is the problem of mechanical fit… ??

 

[HuntingPudel]

I'm not in any kind of denial.
I have no reason to doubt that the 24 Rally represents the most recent improvements. I bet I would agree that it's a refinement of the Mach-E.

But I suspect that the difference between it's Magnaride tuning and the previous Magnaride tuning isn't as dramatic as it might sound in some of the posts?

The Rally Magnaride tuning is all about "performance and control", but what was the GTPE Magnaride tuning about?

Don't get me wrong, if I were buying today, there's a 100% chance that I'd choose the newest version as long as the $value equation wasn't too lopsided. (which it currently doesn't seem to be) But I'm not so sure the difference from behind the wheel has the disparity that some are describing. It's evolutionary, no doubt. But revolutionary? ??

Unless Ford programmed it so that there is less steering assist and more damper control, the Rally programming is not for me. The GT-PE is too soft and its steering is still over-assisted and imprecise. ?‍?

 

[Snakebitten]

Unless Ford programmed it so that there is less steering assist and more damper control, the Rally programming is not for me. The GT-PE is too soft and its steering is still over-assisted and imprecise. ?‍?

It'd be so helpful if Ford would just give us the ability to adjust the damping from the cockpit.
Ranging from Min <> Max.
The digital equivalent of getting out of the vehicle and dialing the damping up/down on manually adjustable dampers.

Instead, they decide a few combinations that they think we should like, and then tie it to drive modes (throttle mapping) as well.

It's so ridiculous and unnecessary.

I know they could do it differently because they DO in the Raptor. The damping maps are completely separate from the "drive modes". The driver can choose both independently.

I have CCD suspension in the truck. Just like the Mach-E, they bundle damping mapping to drive mode. So irritating. ???

And so unnecessary.

 

[shutterbug]

The 24 rally would have the upgraded motor and also give you the option of paying for the performance upgrade.

Performance upgrade is not an option on rally. It's automatically included.

 

[Clockwork]

The 24 rally would have the upgraded motor and also give you the option of paying for the performance upgrade.

The Rally comes with the performance upgrade.

EDIT: shutterbug beat me to it.

 

[Neil4Real]

Had a ‘22 GTPE and now have the ‘24 Rally. Night and day driving difference. Hands down would pick the Rally over the 23 GT.

Can you expand on this? How does the rally drive better than the GTPE?

 

[Mjolsten]

The GT has a more ridged ride due to the wheel and tire size and how the suspension is calibrated for more road/track experience. The rally has a taller side wall and suspension calibration is to take the bumps better for those to take it on the dirt track.
IMO driving the rally you feel more connected to the driving experience and allows you (to a certain degree) be more wild and tap into the power it has. It is like they took off some of the limits to let it loose.

 

[clarktl]

Thanks, everyone! By asking the right questions, I found the 23 was not the 23.5 (which they had told me it was). And the dealer with the rally got me a little more for my trade plus added my military recognition cash (I was sad to learn it’s not mandatory by ford to go with other local dealer discount). So... It became a no brainer to BUY the Rally. It ended up cheaper buying than leasing because their money factor and residual I felt was off. Looking forward to learning EV life!

 

[YeOldeTraveller]

Another Clark with a Rally.

Welcome, and may it be all you hoped for.

Loving mine so far.

 

[Mach1E]

Can you expand on this? How does the rally drive better than the GTPE?

Certainly it’s a generic statement. But based on what we know….

The rally will ride better and accelerate faster.

The GTPE will handle better.

So it really depends on what you mean by “drive better.”

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