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I think the general consensus is that Tesla has the best batteries. They've been able to achieve better energy density (more power in less weight), which has given them an edge on range.My question as we ALL know I am a novice.
Audi batteries are the best. Someone stated Ford wanted to keep price affordable. One more thing to factor in is that Ford is also spending $11 Billion to work with EA as well. Is it at all possible that Ford will do with Batteries what Audi does and part of that $11B is factored in?? Remember Ford on the first video stayed that ALL car manufacturers lose money on EV however Ford says they will make a profit on every car. The only way this can seriously occur is massive sales. In order to get past the first year people will be looking at batteries. In short they HAVE to get it right. Thoughts anyone???
Audi uses the same batteries as the Mach-e. In fact, they're sourced from the exact same LG Chem plant in Poland that Ford is using for the Mach-e (and the upcoming Transit van). That's the actual battery cells though. From there, each manufacturer develops their own battery PACKS to house them, cool/heat them, and manage their charging. That's where the differences exist.
As for the Mach-e (or any other BEV) being profitable, that's a complicated issue. The line that says "all manufacturers lose money on EVs" was probably true in the past, but that was when batteries were grossly expensive, and when there just wasn't much public demand for them. Both of those factors are changing fast. Battery costs (while still expensive) have come down a lot and are expected to keep coming down quite a bit more due to economies of scale. They've also improved energy density and charging times so much that they can now achieve the type of ranges (200+ miles) that interest a lot more consumers. Few people wanted a 75 mile car, but 250 is a game-changer. That allows some serious sales volumes to occur, which can enable profitability.
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