Cadillac Lyriq - Thoughts?

[Jimrpa]

How do you know what it is going to have or offer. Silly

Product differentiation?

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[Jimrpa]

Not much differentiation from Ford either.

Example- Ford Explorer limited vs Lincoln Aviator or Expedition vs Navigator.

Can spec out the Fords with almost identical gear.

Looks like the only difference is a more adjustable seat, more stereo speakers and a heads up display-

https://www.rountreelincoln.net/lincoln-aviator-vs-ford-explorer-shreveport-la.htm

Ok

 

[tuminatr]

One other vehicle to consider is the Audi E-tron. Those are a little bigger and has very good looks.

 

[Jimrpa]

One other vehicle to consider is the Audi E-tron. Those are a little bigger and has very good looks.

Isn’t that just an id.4, like the Cadillac is nothing more than a blazer?

 

[tuminatr]

Audi does make a version of the ID4 it's called the Q4 E-tron but they also make a completely separate E-tron that's bigger and much nicer. Not to make it simple the bigger vehicle is just called the E-tron


Here is a link to a E-tron review

https://www.edmunds.com/audi/e-tron/

 

[voxel]

One other vehicle to consider is the Audi E-tron. Those are a little bigger and has very good looks.

It's significantly more expensive with only 230 miles of range.

My friend (who owned the i4 that I bought from)'s wife has an e-tron and raves about the air suspension. He hated how the Model Y rode (he'd hate the MME for certain), but loved his Model S with air suspension and told me the E-tron is even smoother.

 

[tuminatr]

It's significantly more expensive with only 230 miles of range.

My friend (who owned the i4 that I bought from)'s wife has an e-tron and raves about the air suspension. He hated how the Model Y rode (he'd hate the MME for certain), but loved his Model S with air suspension and told me the E-tron is even smoother.

I hated how the model y drove IMHO harder and more bouncy that the MME. Depend on what is important, I think the E-tron is a really attractive car and Audi makes vehicles that drive extremely nice.

Has GM released the range for the AWD?

 

[Jimrpa]

Audi does make a version of the ID4 it's called the Q4 E-tron but they also make a completely separate E-tron that's bigger and much nicer. Not to make it simple the bigger vehicle is just called the E-tron


Here is a link to a E-tron review

https://www.edmunds.com/audi/e-tron/

But the lyriq is just a rebadged blazer? I just want to be sure I understand here.

 

[Blue highway]

But the lyriq is just a rebadged blazer? I just want to be sure I understand here.

Depends on your perspective.

The skateboard is fairly similar... battery... motors... suspension geometry... etc.

Everything above the skateboard is different between the two.

 

[LincolnLuvr]

It's significantly more expensive with only 230 miles of range.

My friend (who owned the i4 that I bought from)'s wife has an e-tron and raves about the air suspension. He hated how the Model Y rode (he'd hate the MME for certain), but loved his Model S with air suspension and told me the E-tron is even smoother.

Audi will be releasing an updated E-tron as well as a Q6-Etron (Q5 dimensions but with Q7 space) with ~ 300 miles of range and their 2nd gen battery tech.

 

[tuminatr]

But the lyriq is just a rebadged blazer? I just want to be sure I understand here.

Yes, I do understand. It's a rebatched blazer. This is really common for car manufacturers to do. Sounds like. However, the suspension will be completely different on the two vehicles because the Blazer definitely won't have a luxury soft ride

Depends on your perspective.

The skateboard is fairly similar... battery... motors... suspension geometry... etc.

Everything above the skateboard is different between the two.

I

Depends on your perspective.

The skateboard is fairly similar... battery... motors... suspension geometry... etc.

Everything above the skateboard is different between the two.

Precisely right, I seem to remember Ford uses two platforms. The Mach E is C2 and that is the same as the escape. I have a rental escape right now it's nothing like the MME. It was the same with my MKZ and the Fusion same platform completely different cars

 

[Mach1E]

Yes, I do understand. It's a rebatched blazer. This is really common for car manufacturers to do. Sounds like. However, the suspension will be completely different on the two vehicles because the Blazer definitely won't have a luxury soft ride

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Precisely right, I seem to remember Ford uses two platforms. The Mach E is C2 and that is the same as the escape. I have a rental escape right now it's nothing like the MME. It was the same with my MKZ and the Fusion same platform completely different cars

It’s the other way around, Blazer is a rebadged Lyriq. Lyriq came first.

But again, it’s really not just “rebadged.” Other than the drivetrain they don’t seem to share parts.

This isn’t the Ford Taurus vs Mercury Sable where they were identical except the badges. Those days are long gone.

 

[Jimrpa]

It’s the other way around, Blazer is a rebadged Lyriq. Lyriq came first.

But again, it’s really not just “rebadged.” Other than the drivetrain they don’t seem to share parts.

This isn’t the Ford Taurus vs Mercury Sable where they were identical except the badges. Those days are long gone.

Well, some here seemed to be asserting that. In fact, there was one poster who was asserting, as an example, that an expedition could be equipped the same as a Navigator (which I know not to be the case, but I didn’t want to go down the rabbit hole). Similarly, while I’m sure the lyriq and blazer share a lot or architectural similarity, I’m sure they’re not the same car. If you buy a blazer, you’re not going to get the same feature set that’s available on the lyriq, no matter what option packages you pick. But, some people want ventilated head rests and will pay for them, while others are quite happy with ventilated seats (just an example).

 

[kindofblue]

Audi will be releasing an updated E-tron as well as a Q6-Etron (Q5 dimensions but with Q7 space) with ~ 300 miles of range and their 2nd gen battery tech.

Looks like it's going to be a while according to the E-tron owner's forum.

 

[LincolnLuvr]

Looks like it's going to be a while according to the E-tron owner's forum.

Not that long of a wait I think. Q6 E-tron and updated E-tron expected in the first half of 2023. The updated E-tron might be called the Q8 E-tron which doesn't make sense imo, since the Q8 is a much larger vehicle.

https://electrichasgoneaudi.net/models/q8-e-tron/

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