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The purpose of this post is to raise the issue of how poor a job Ford seems to be doing diagnosing / servicing these cars. You would think Ford has never sold a car before. My car has been at the dealer since 01/29/26. It can't get past the pictured screen or open updates menu at all. The dealer basically just calls Ford and does whatever an engineer says to do over the phone. The techs have no real knowledge of or even access to these systems, which is absurd when you consider any of us have the means to hard reset a smartphone, or reformat a computer's drive for a fresh start whenever we want. For over two weeks, there was no movement whatsoever between Ford's engineers and the dealer. But the single most frustrating thing was anyone I spoke to at Ford could barely comprehend the issue no matter how many time I explained it in plain language, which seems to be a running theme with the company. Every person I speak to thinks I'm complaining my car doesn't have the latest firmware, and I have to explain to them over and over again that I have no idea if firmware is even available; the problem is a broken menu that will not open. These people repeat the things I say back to me but have no understanding of the words we're using. Ford initially told the dealer the car is fine and the menu isn't supposed to open unless there is new firmware available, which is false. Without this menu, you cannot see what version the car is running, or turn auto updates on or off. When I explained this to anyone at Ford, they literally repeat the entire statement back to me as a question as if they are learning a new language (there is no language barrier). I feel like I'm teaching a class.

This next part is almost comical. My case was assigned a BEV Customer Experience Specialist. This person has emailed me 3 times in response to phone calls I have made to the dealer. I don't know why, but anytime I call the dealer, it prompts her to email me. I replied to all 3 emails only to be ignored. Her phone number along with extension is at the bottom of every email. But Ford's telephone system doesn't acknowledge the extension, and routes the call to the call center anyway. Today, she emailed me specifically asking me to call her if I had any concerns to which I did within 4 minutes. Someone had to transfer the call to her (after repeating everything I said back to me as a question) since the phone system ignores extensions. Her phone was set to Do Not Disturb, and voice mailbox was full. Now remember, she literally asked me to call her. And her voicemail recording stated completely different hours of availability than her email signature. I have no idea how I am supposed to contact this person assigned to my case.

A master reset did not solve the problem. The dealer will not give me a loaner to drive as they do not have one. All Ford has offered me is $40 / day to rent a car. But you cannot rent a car on $40 / day in the NY Metropolitan Area. I have explained this in an ignored email.

Ford has pushed some code to my car. Two nights ago at midnight, my FordPass app showed the vehicle was "on" instead of parked. As of today, in the FordPass mobile app, I can access the software updates screen. This screen was previously frozen on my phone. I have no idea if it works in the car as I do not have access to it. Upon call to the dealer they told me Ford said it still doesn't work but also confirmed they were advised code was pushed to the car successfully, but no technician has physically checked. I don't think the dealer service advisor understands the problem, or Ford's comments on it. I think the menu is loading fine now, but a firmware update failed and now Ford would like to force new firmware onto the vehicle. Fine, but that's not why I brought the car in.

I'm confident the company will eventually fix the issue, but this has probably been the worst communication experience with some of the most incompetent customer facing employees I've ever gone through. They aren't even correctly documenting our conversations. I've been nothing but forthcoming with information for these people, patiently and completely answering all their questions and providing whatever else they need only to end every phone call more informed than anyone I spoke to.

Last November, I brought my car to a dealer for the 4th time over a water leak Ford refused to even acknowledge until I printed them a TSB explaining how to fix it. My carpets were saturated after 2 years of Ford telling me there's no leak and questioning of the video of water coming out of my tailgate was legitimate. This company is doing a horrible job maintaining the products they sell.


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I have told the dealer to do this, to which they ignored me. In an email from 02/09 to my Customer Experience Specialist, I said to change the module and this will all be over. Also ignored. I've come to learn that the dealer doesn't have the capability to order a module from Ford until every possible software remedy has been tried.

But seriously, even Tesla communicates better then this. This has been a clown show from day one.
 

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I understand the frustration cause I've been there.

Back when I first purchased my car, the car wouldn't stop charging even after reaching it's target level. I gave my dealership the TSB that would address the issue and it sat on their lot for a week with no work being done before I took the car back. I ultimately learned how to update the car myself from these forums and vowed never to use the dealer for anything except for recalls and warranty work.

Does the car works otherwise? If so, try to get the car back and try to perform the battery pull yourself or try another dealer. It's quite easy to do and, as you can tell, some dealer service departments are hit or miss.
 
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The thing is, I can't do that because my warranty expires in two days. If the module is bad, they need to discover that, without me doing anything so they can replace it.

As they have successfully pushed code to the vehicle, I don't actually think the module is bad or that it even needs to be reset at this point. I think they may have in fact bricked the module, or bricked some aspect of the vehicle responsible for installing future firmware updates. So Right now I'm glad the car is getting attention from the engineers or it will never get firmware again.

Still though, I expect dealer service departments to be dismissive. But for corporate to be running this kind of clown show is really eye opening of what Ford thinks of EV buyers.
 


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Again, I think a fix is in the pipeline. They've demonstrated they can push code to the car. I was really making this thread just to point out us BEV owners seem to be treated very differently than ICE owners. If this thing were an F-150 with a blown transmission, I bet it would be replaced by now.
 

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I just had a totally opposite experience with service. My wife's car had been giving false charging error messages for a couple of months, then it would give Stop Safely Now messages and only go into accessory mode at start up. The faults were very intermittent.

I took it to the dealer and they duplicated the intermittent faults, contacted Ford and got a software update that fixed everything. My issue was TSB 21-2244, according to the paperwork. The dealer kept me informed that they were working with Ford on the diagnosis. They had the car two days.
 

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One of the challenges with any company, and Ford is no exception, is the expertise, or lack thereof, of the customer support staff. On a trip with the Mach-E we had a failed HVBJB. Nobody at Ford, including an experience employee in charge of the support network, knew the engineers had crippled the fast charging speed to low 40s to enable you to continue to drive. That blew my mind. Would have taken the Lightning on that trip had I known that.

Then, when they attempted to come up with solutions for us to continue our trip, with this high-level internal content supposedly advocating for us, they were pretty clueless as to understanding our situation. They offered to let us rent a vehicle for the rest of our trip, on them, but then put forth the terms that no company in the world would rent a car for that was about to drive a few thousand miles more.
 
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I'm all fixed up. This is the state the car was in when they handed me my keys and said it was ready for pick up. Throughout this entire process, I have spoken to my BEV Customer Experience Specialist zero times, after 3 ignored emails and phonecalls to a voicemail box that was full and not accepting messages.
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I'm all fixed up. This is the state the car was in when they handed me my keys and said it was ready for pick up. Throughout this entire process, I have spoken to my BEV Customer Experience Specialist zero times, after 3 ignored emails and phonecalls to a voicemail box that was full and not accepting messages.
None of what you mentioned on this thread really surpises me. I work in the auto industry, so I know these processes between dealer techs and engineers (for a lack of better words) sucks. Not just with Ford......with ALL brands. However, giving a customer back a car with panels in the trunk is crazy. 😬
 
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Honestly, it's the dismissive treatment from Ford corporate that surprises me.

This car only got fixed because I contacted someone at the TAC department through unofficial channels, and they decided to be a nice person and correct the course of the investigation. I've thanked this person profusely.
 

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If this thing were an F-150 with a blown transmission, I bet it would be replaced by now.
I can assure you that is NOT a good assumption. Post-Covid factory authorized warranty service is rather abysmal regardless of drivetrain. I don't think it's a Blue Oval exclusive either.

I frequent the forums related to vehicles I and other family members own. (I'm the family patriarch for several roles, including vehicle purchase/maintain/repair advice) The service shortcomings are more common than I ever remember in my lifetime.
 

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@Ford Motor Company, Brian, please help this poor guy out!

Thanks for the tag @JohnFoxeSheets . I hate reading about experiences like this.

@2010GT Since you already have a case number, please shoot me a DM with that, your VIN, and the specific dealer you are working with. I want to get this in front of the team so we can look at the history, see what the technical blockers are, and get you and your Mach-E taken care of.

I'll keep an eye out for your message.
 

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@2010GT what ended up being the resolution?
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