Dead while driving.

[tfitzgex]

I got it towed to the dealer. Used a jump box to get accessories to turn on and close the window. I know it is going to get looked at early. Because the tow truck dropped it off blocking the service bay doors…

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[Gimme_my_MME]

I know it is going to get looked at early. Because the tow truck dropped it off blocking the service bay doors…

That is certainly one way to do it

 

[tfitzgex]

If you are in the portland area, use Tow Guys, the guy looked up everything about the mach-e before he headed to me. He knew how to get 12v power, how to get it in to emergency tow mode, and where the hook points were. https://towguysportland.com/

 

[lprobinson]

Definitely seems like there's no pattern or owner behavior that is triggering these. Charging not charging driving etc.

Very much not confidence-inspiring.

My MME has yet to be scheduled for production … but I’m now paranoid and rethinking my decision for it to be my only transportation. I’ve even started looking into the Volvo V60 T8 Recharge (love a wagon) but they are harder to come by then the MME.

 

[scoopman]

Ford's gotta have some kind of fix in the works here, this is a silly amount of towing and emergency parts for them. I'm sure they will probably have sorted this one out before your car is built....

 

[voxel]

My MME has yet to be scheduled for production … but I’m now paranoid and rethinking my decision for it to be my only transportation. I’ve even started looking into the Volvo V60 T8 Recharge (love a wagon) but they are harder to come by then the MME.

Doesn't mean other EVs aren't experiencing similar issues... when my ID.4 shut down in the middle of the road - nobody could figure out why and the VW forums were pretty dismissive about it.

Now there's a NTHSA recall on the ID.4 on yet another LG chem battery issue (currently without a resolution) with batteries built in Poland.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V162-1029.PDF

The build dates fit with my build dates.

At least folks here are trying to help+ isolate the problem and prod Ford to fix it.

 

[dtbaker61]

My MME has yet to be scheduled for production … but I’m now paranoid and rethinking my decision for it to be my only transportation. I’ve even started looking into the Volvo V60 T8 Recharge (love a wagon) but they are harder to come by then the MME.

don't sweat too much, the numbers that have had 12v battery problems are *probably* pretty tiny percentage of total production. Unfortunately, we don't really have the numbers, but if you take the dozen or so who have had 12v problems compared to thousands sold... it's not too bad for a 1st model year.

I have not had any problems, other than a bad display screen chip, which was easily corrected at Dealership.

The stress of DCFC may have something to do with these HV junction issues and 12v charging, but no clear pattern has emerged yet. I have not had any charging or 12v issues, and I have not tried dcfc charging even once... but whether that is statistically significant or not is unknown.

I've been pretty impressed with reliability actually... just a few annoying software issues mostly.

 

[jeffvick2005]

don't sweat too much, the numbers that have had 12v battery problems are *probably* pretty tiny percentage of total production. Unfortunately, we don't really have the numbers, but if you take the dozen or so who have had 12v problems compared to thousands sold... it's not too bad for a 1st model year.

I have not had any problems, other than a bad display screen chip, which was easily corrected at Dealership.

The stress of DCFC may have something to do with these HV junction issues and 12v charging, but no clear pattern has emerged yet. I have not had any charging or 12v issues, and I have not tried dcfc charging even once... but whether that is statistically significant or not is unknown.

I've been pretty impressed with reliability actually... just a few annoying software issues mostly.

From my limited sampling on these threads, it seems to be a more common issue amongst the 2021 models than the 2022…maybe that bodes better for those of us waiting for production?

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Ford's gotta have some kind of fix in the works here, this is a silly amount of towing and emergency parts for them. I'm sure they will probably have sorted this one out before your car is built....

As far as 12vokt issue go, everyone at the ev event I was at on Saturday was talking about 12 volt battery failures. All the Tesla owners, the BMW sales manager, the Kia people etc. it’s not unique to Ford apparently. Just a FWIW.

 

[Jimbo]

From my limited sampling on these threads, it seems to be a more common issue amongst the 2021 models than the 2022…maybe that bodes better for those of us waiting for production?

Given that there are far more 2021s on the road than 2022s, and that 2021s have driven far more collective miles/hours than have 2022s, the paucity of accounts of this occuring with 2022s is in no way surprising, even if we assume 2022s suffer from the same root cause(s).

 

[scoopman]

As far as 12vokt issue go, everyone at the ev event I was at on Saturday was talking about 12 volt battery failures. All the Tesla owners, the BMW sales manager, the Kia people etc. it’s not unique to Ford apparently. Just a FWIW.

Oh sure, but I don't think my HVBJB failure was due to a 12V issue. My 12V has always seemed to be pretty happy.

 

[scoopman]

Given that there are far more 2021s on the road than 2022s, and that 2021s have driven far more collective miles/hours than have 2022s, the paucity of accounts of this occuring with 2022s is in no way surprising, even if we assume 2022s suffer from the same root cause(s).

I think there's been at least 1-2 2022s I saw on here that also gave their owners membership in the Stop Safely Now club.

 

[scoopman]

don't sweat too much, the numbers that have had 12v battery problems are *probably* pretty tiny percentage of total production. Unfortunately, we don't really have the numbers, but if you take the dozen or so who have had 12v problems compared to thousands sold... it's not too bad for a 1st model year.

I have not had any problems, other than a bad display screen chip, which was easily corrected at Dealership.

The stress of DCFC may have something to do with these HV junction issues and 12v charging, but no clear pattern has emerged yet. I have not had any charging or 12v issues, and I have not tried dcfc charging even once... but whether that is statistically significant or not is unknown.

I've been pretty impressed with reliability actually... just a few annoying software issues mostly.

I don't think you can make the assumption that the HVBJB failures we've seen are all due to 12V battery problems.

 

[scoopman]

If you are in the portland area, use Tow Guys, the guy looked up everything about the mach-e before he headed to me. He knew how to get 12v power, how to get it in to emergency tow mode, and where the hook points were. https://towguysportland.com/

Oh snap! can you get that guy to move to the Bay Area?

 

[tfitzgex]

don't sweat too much, the numbers that have had 12v battery problems are *probably* pretty tiny percentage of total production. Unfortunately, we don't really have the numbers, but if you take the dozen or so who have had 12v problems compared to thousands sold... it's not too bad for a 1st model year.

I have not had any problems, other than a bad display screen chip, which was easily corrected at Dealership.

The stress of DCFC may have something to do with these HV junction issues and 12v charging, but no clear pattern has emerged yet. I have not had any charging or 12v issues, and I have not tried dcfc charging even once... but whether that is statistically significant or not is unknown.

I've been pretty impressed with reliability actually... just a few annoying software issues mostly.

I would hope they would figure out the DCFC stress issues. 1. I live in a townhouse, no 220... can't put 220 in. 2. These cars are being adopted as fleet vehicles. They need to be able to handle the rigors of daily driving and yes even sometimes multiple DCFC in one day.

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