Does drive mode affect range / mileage?

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Does drive mode affect range/mileage?
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No. Any change in efficiency from switching from one mode to another is strictly based off of driving style. ??
 

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I expect it does. Whisper accelerates gently and will let the car coast off-throttle while Unbridled is the opposite. I don't have experiments to back it up, but I expect Whisper would be better, even with Unbridled using more motor deceleration / regeneration.
 

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How come the "Regenerate Coach" only shows up on Engage?
 


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Floor it? The real problem with that is I hit the traffic ahead in 3.5 seconds. The energy imparted to the car in full-throttle is the same in all settings. If you develop an affinity for a certain speed, you will modulate the throttle to achieve it in the rate you expect in all settings…. So the same energy but different throttle positions to achieve it.

There are a few ways to waste energy. 1. Loss to heat in hard acceleration, 2. Loss to friction in hard stopping, and 3. Loss to air resistance in high-speed driving. It is too early to talk about #4. Come back in October.

if you enable “Capybara mode” in your right foot, you will achieve almost identical efficiency in the different modes.
 

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I expect it does. Whisper accelerates gently and will let the car coast off-throttle while Unbridled is the opposite. I don't have experiments to back it up, but I expect Whisper would be better, even with Unbridled using more motor deceleration / regeneration.
It all depends on how you drive. You can coast in Unbridled just like you can in Whisper. It just takes modulation of the right pedal, similar to when using 1PD. ??


How come the "Regenerate Coach" only shows up on Engage?
One of the many Ford mysteries. I would love for the Braking Coach to show up in Unbridled or Whisper. ??
 

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I expect it does. Whisper accelerates gently and will let the car coast off-throttle while Unbridled is the opposite. I don't have experiments to back it up, but I expect Whisper would be better, even with Unbridled using more motor deceleration / regeneration.
All modes, including 1 pedal, are the same.
 

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It all depends on how you drive. You can coast in Unbridled just like you can in Whisper. It just takes modulation of the right pedal, similar to when using 1PD. ??




One of the many Ford mysteries. I would love for the Braking Coach to show up in Unbridled or Whisper. ??
Indeed, the GOM & range calculations are the weirdest I’ve ever seen out of the three EVs I’ve owned over the last few years now. There may well be differences or improvements between things like efficiency, range etc, but the Mach-E simply seems to simply invent its range calculation based on supposedly ‘smart’ learning your style etc. What BS.

Other EVs consistently did this: before charging at home, , zero the trip meters, then fully charge to 100% overnight, then finally see an indicated range consistent with the WLTP rating for that car. How fast it discharges etc is a completely different matter & even in cold weather with an LFP battery chemistry, I consistently got the same figure when fully charged.

The Mach-E: absolutely not so. Slightly different figures every time and certainly far less than the the claimed WLTP range. Mach-E Select & LFP battery here, so am not comparing apples & oranges compared to my other LFP EVs. I have never, ever seen the claimed 470k WLTP fully charged, more like 440k at best.
 

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I like Engage the best. Unbridled s to twitchy, in acceleration and more importantly steering. In Engage, if you want to go... it goes! For range, who knows?
 

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Does drive mode affect range/mileage?
I've looked high and low for differences in these modes.
I have yet to find what physical or electrical changes each mode engages.
The manual states what each mode is for, but doesn't explain how it does it.
 

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The technical answer is that all modes are the same efficiency wise BUT the catch is that your driving behavior cant change between modes. 1PD or 2PD can have the same efficiency but the catch is that you don’t want to trigger the actual brakes when using the brake pedal. All driving modes can have the same efficiency BUT you have to drive exactly the same way.

Real world results will likely have a slight lean towards 1PD and whisper simply because it makes it easier to drive more efficiently without thinking about it.
 

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I've looked high and low for differences in these modes.
I have yet to find what physical or electrical changes each mode engages.
The manual states what each mode is for, but doesn't explain how it does it.
Accelerator mapping, regen mapping, and steering mapping. All software settings that change the feel of the drive but that’s it, power level is not changed.
 

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I've looked high and low for differences in these modes.
I have yet to find what physical or electrical changes each mode engages.
The manual states what each mode is for, but doesn't explain how it does it.
Accelerator mapping: It is mapped to have a higher output at lower pedal pressures in Unbridled as compared with Engaged. Similarly, Engaged has more aggressive mapping than Whisper. This is the least important change since 100% on the go pedal is the same in all three modes (Unbridled Extend limits power output), and 0% is still zero power. ??

Steering: Less assist is provided in Unbridled than in Engaged. Similarly, less assist is provided in Engaged than in Whisper. Note that the steering ratio does not change, so in Whisper the steering can actually be “twitchier” due to over-assist. Unbridled is still over-assisted and the car still needs a faster steering rack. ??

Regenerative braking: The highest regenerative braking is achieved in Unbridled. Somewhat less in Engaged. The least in Whisper. Note that Whisper still provides some regenerative braking, just less than in the other two modes. If you want to coast with zero regenerative braking, you must place the car in Neutral. Unbridled Extend negates Regenerative braking. ??

Suspension damping (Magneride cars only): Whisper provides the softest damping settings. Engaged a little stiffer settings. Unbridled provides the stiffest settings. Unbridled is still too soft. ??
 

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Modes do have a miner difference when using adaptive cruise control where there is a lot of changes in speed. You will notice the speed and power level is more aggressive in unbridled than in whisper when the car increases speed to get to the set level. If this is done a lot, you may see a reduction in range.
But honestly, after two year+, I use more energy thinking about it. For me, sometimes it is fun to geekout with stuff like this but most of the time just having fun and enjoying the great car.

As a side note, I use all modes depending on my mood. Just cruise around with the wife, whisper. Daily driving engage. Alone and feeling a little irresponsible, unbridled.
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