Eibach Sway bars now avalable for the Mach E

[azerik]

Thanks Mark!
After pinching my Steeda brackets and driving on them for a week they're groaning. It's happening when weight is loaded or unloaded from stop and go. I'm headed north but this might be on my doorstep next week.

Did you notice if the bushings inside had pockets for the grease? (The ones for the Can-AM that wern't greasable had small lines for the grease, like a comb).

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[HuntingPudel]

Because the Eibach bars very closely resemble the shape of the OEM bars, I doubt there will be issues with them contacting any of the suspension in the front, or body in the rear like we have seen on some of our cars. Most have had no issues at all and some have had major issues with this. Then there are the spherical end links that Steeda supplied that we have had noise issues with and while the OEM end links are not as beefy, I think they will be more trouble free.

I didn't take many photos last night when I was doing this as I had just gotten home from out of town and was tired but excited to get this done so I could have today to take the car for a good drive. I won't have much more time to do anything else since I am leaving for Europe in two days for two weeks.

A couple of photos I did not post last night:
This is a comparison of the right front Steeda bar end link area and the same area with the Eibach bars installed. Because the angle at the end of the Eibach bar and the OEM end links being longer, there is much more room between the bar and the half shaft so doubt there will be any contact like there was with some members on their half shafts.

One note, you know you have the Eibach bars installed correctly as long as the Eibach name and model number on the bar are right side up.

I can’t believe you didn’t paint them black, Mark! ??

Those front frame brackets look really beefy. Do the rears look similar? ??

I’m a sucker for high-rate bars, so I can see that there will be a time in the bit so distant future that I try these and maybe try a mix-n-match. ??

 

[markboris]

Thanks Mark!
After pinching my Steeda brackets and driving on them for a week they're groaning. It's happening when weight is loaded or unloaded from stop and go. I'm headed north but this might be on my doorstep next week.

Did you notice if the bushings inside had pockets for the grease? (The ones for the Can-AM that wern't greasable had small lines for the grease, like a comb).

Yes the bushings have deep cuts in them.
You can’t really see them here with the grease I packed in them.

 

[markboris]

I can’t believe you didn’t paint them black, Mark! ??

Those front frame brackets look really beefy. Do the rears look similar? ??

I’m a sucker for high-rate bars, so I can see that there will be a time in the bit so distant future that I try these and maybe try a mix-n-match. ??

I know right? I paint everything black so as not to stand out but I was tired last night and don’t have the time today. Actually taking both my cars tomorrow to Sac for the pre game car show at the River Cats ball game. That and packing for my trip Sunday I didn’t have time to paint the bars.

All four brackets are the same and are aluminum anodized in black. Not sure how heavy duty they are but I like the fact they have zirk fittings. I’ve never had to grease my bushings on any car using the green grease but there’s always a first time. The pictures in my first post on these bars shows one of the front brackets and one of the rear.

Been driving around doing some last minute shopping. Still no noises so far but didn’t really have any with the Steeda’s either. Can’t tell about the handling until I take out on the back roads.

 

[Mauser]

I ordered the set (front and rear) yesterday. Want to see how they compare to the Steeda's as far as fitment mainly. I have no issues with the Steeda's and they've been on my car well over a year.

Because one of Eibach's main goals when designing sway bars is to keep them as similar in shape as the OEM bars, they are able to use the OEM end links. The Eibach bars are tubular like the OEM's and are about 4 lbs lighter than the Steeda's which are solid bars. I'll get a weight difference when I replace them.

The Eibach front bar rate (lbs/in) is 498, 530 depending on which adjustable position you use. These rates are much higher than Steeda's which are around 280, 309, 333. The OEM front GT bar is 240, GTPE is 288. I'm not sure what the rate is on the OEM non-GT front bar but it's less than the GT. The Eibach rear bar rate is 215 while the OEM GT bar is 200. Steeda's rear bar rates are 250, 300, 350. I questioned Eibach about the minimal stiffness difference of their rear bar and engineering is getting back to me on Monday. Eibach's bushing brackets have zirk (grease) fittings.

I was told the reason the GT and GTPE models are not listed for these bars is because they didn't have either of those models to test it on, therefore they cannot guarantee fitment. I explained I've installed bars on all models of Mach-E's and they seem to be all the same but until they actually test the GT models they cannot list them. I told them while my car is a GTPE, it does not have a stock suspension (slightly lowered with H&R springs) so I wouldn't be a good source in case there were any issues with their bars.

I've purchased many suspension items from Eibach (as well as Steeda) for past vehicles. Eibach's factory is here in Corona CA about 5 hours from me. Like most other Eibach suspension parts, these Mach-E sway bars were designed, manufactured, painted and tested at this facility. Everything is done in house. Their customer service has always been great, although I have never had issues with any of their parts. I always order direct from them and the parts arrive in two days (regular ground shipping). While the bars will be in Tuesday, I will be out of town until Thursday evening so Friday morning I'll install the bars.

Their instructions for these bars are not available online yet but they will be shortly. Not that I or anyone else that have installed bars on the Mach-E need instructions, I asked if they would email them to me in case others wanted to check them out. In the instructions for the front bar, one of the photos shows a bar with three adjustment holes. This photo was just for the purpose of showing the adjustability of the bar and is not the Mach-E bar which only has two adjustment holes. In all the other photos, the actual Mach-E bar is shown.

Maybe I'm missing something, but there's no option for the GT-PE. The only GT is the NON MagneRide option which is just the GT.

 

[azerik]

Mark is doing this to help US and Eibach. They couldn't test on a GTPE so they didn't say it's good to go.

Side note Hotchkis Bushings are almost 1/2 the price of the bar lol

Also Eibach has the pics for the bars backwards on their site. (I'm trying to find a way to get a discount on the front, I'll keep my rear *for now)

Just ordered the front bar.

@markboris That green goo you use, is that available in a pump? Having a zerk is great and all but doesn't help if I can't pump something similar into it.
Second question, how's this bar handle dips at an angle. My Steeda bar(s) would slap from side to side

*Side note: I had to drive 5 miles each way down a wash board dirt road. My rear bar now sounds like a haunted house. But that's probably because of the lube I had used as green goo didn't exist when I Installed the bars.

 

[markboris]

Maybe I'm missing something, but there's no option for the GT-PE. The only GT is the NON MagneRide option which is just the GT.

As Erik said above, Eibach did not have a GTPE to test so they could not list it under their models to select. There is no difference in the shape of the bars no matter what model Mach-E you have but they won't list anything they have not tested. I can assure you that it works just fine on the GTPE.

 

[markboris]

Mark is doing this to help US and Eibach. They couldn't test on a GTPE so they didn't say it's good to go.

Side note Hotchkis Bushings are almost 1/2 the price of the bar lol

Also Eibach has the pics for the bars backwards on their site. (I'm trying to find a way to get a discount on the front, I'll keep my rear *for now)

Just ordered the front bar.

@markboris That green goo you use, is that available in a pump? Having a zerk is great and all but doesn't help if I can't pump something similar into it.
Second question, how's this bar handle dips at an angle. My Steeda bar(s) would slap from side to side

*Side note: I had to drive 5 miles each way down a wash board dirt road. My rear bar now sounds like a haunted house. But that's probably because of the lube I had used as green goo didn't exist when I Installed the bars.

Yes the green grease comes in a pump tube. I dipped into the tube with my finger to lube the bushings.

I don't have any dips at an angle but do have speed bumps that are at an angle and make the car rock side to side very sharply. I can try those as they are close by.

 

[azerik]

I don't have any dips at an angle but do have speed bumps that are at an angle and make the car rock side to side very sharply. I can try those as they are close by.

Testing for this:

 

[markboris]

Testing for this:

Why is your bar moving up and down?. How can that happen unless the bushing is too big for the bar? I did not have this with the Steeda and certainly don't have it with the Eibach.

 

[azerik]

That’s side to side, by hand. Me and a couple others have/had this as a ton of the Steeda bars issue. Think, that clunk almost every bump. The bushing and brackets were too big. Contacted Steeda about it and was ghosted.

 

[markboris]

That’s side to side, by hand. Me and a couple others have/had this as a ton of the Steeda bars issue. Think, that clunk almost every bump. The bushing and brackets were too big. Contacted Steeda about it and was ghosted.

I think I mentioned earlier there is no side to side movement on the Eibach's at all as those ring stops on the bar are tight up against the bushings on both sides so impossible to move.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Yes the green grease comes in a pump tube. I dipped into the tube with my finger to lube the bushings.

I don't have any dips at an angle but do have speed bumps that are at an angle and make the car rock side to side very sharply. I can try those as they are close by.

The marine grease I use is similar to the stuff Mark is using but it has a blue color. You can kind of see it squooshing out here. ??

 

[azerik]

Very happy to hear that as my attempts to remedy haven’t solved it.

 

[markboris]

Erik, I think you will be very happy with the front bar. Are you going to use the OEM end links to eliminate the issues there too? When I took my end links off that were greased properly, one end was extremely stiff. Not sure why. I am not too happy with those Steeda spherical end links. I have always used Eibach or Whiteline spherical end links in the past.

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