FORD MUSTANG MACH E INSIDER INFO, RUMORS, AND RELEASE DATE

[hybrid2bev]

This lines up with what I'm hearing too. Training will be virtual. Order bank opens for dealers on the 22nd, for customers to do online themselves on the 24th.

If recent dealer communications carry any merit, then it looks like the road to the electric Mustang launch is looking strong. Recent Ford dealer documents state that beginning “early July” product training for the Mustang Mach E will begin. Typically this involves a specialist with a production model vehicle at each dealership showcasing a full educative walk around of the car. This was originally scheduled for last month but due to circumstances, the Mustang Mach-E’s status was placed on hold. Beginning sometime in the next week, dealers will receive the opportunity to schedule their required training. Product Trainers will be available beginning June 18th for “Product related questions”.

An interesting aspect of the training is that for the first time it will be wholly done online through a webcast. Two live sessions will be held via a required Webex video conference. In-person training is of course preferred but in order to not delay the release any longer, Ford has opted for this socially distant route. Unlike traditional training, this method won’t allow employees to physically interact with the car. After the two sessions, a quiz will be required to pass in order to maintain certification for the all new Mustang Mach-E. Ford has confirmed that the same system will be used for the upcoming Lincoln Corsair.

More importantly, Andrew Frick, Ford’s director of U.S. sales, states that the Mustang Mach E order book will open up on June 22nd. This means that any reservations will start to be converted into orders for the electric car. The configurator will open up and Ford will start finalizing the configurations for the First Edition of the Mach E. According to our local Ford dealership, it typically takes 8-12 weeks from order to delivery. This however could be skewed with Ford still catching up with production due to down time.

With Ford having to close down its manufacturing facilities for around two months like many other automakers, it has been speculated that any new launches of their vehicles would be pushed back by at least two months as well. This would push the Mach E’s debut from late this year to early 2021.

But with this new information, if there was a substantial delay for the Mach E, would the order book start to open up more than six months away from a speculated early 2021 release? Would training showcasing a production model vehicle be done so early? It would be extremely nontraditional for a very traditional manufacturer to do so.

Comments made to Electrek from Emma Bergg, a Ford spokesperson reiterated that the electric car would still make it’s late 2020 American debut. She wrote, “We expect to deliver the all-new Mustang Mach-E to US customers late this year” and that “We’ve always said Mach-E is coming late this year. It’s still the case. We never said a specific month.”


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[Berth48]

J'etais au téléphone avec mon revendeur il y a 10 minutes, il m'a confirmé un numéro de contrat pour une mise en production de ma FE que Ford France à émis. Il m'a confirmé aussi qu'un bon de commande serait créé avant fin juin et sûrement un essai en même temps. En ce qui concerne la livraison il n'a pas été trop pessimiste étant donné que c'est une FE et m'a fait sous entendre une possible livraison avant avant Noël (informations Ford France a vérifier). Pas que de mauvaise nouvelle c'est déjà ça, malgré tout encore sept mois minimum de patience.

 

[eager2own]

I would hope that option and pricing information will come out before June 22 and 24. I suspect most will want some time to consider final options with pricing before converting to “finalized orders.”

 

[JoelOclock]

I would hope that option and pricing information will come out before June 22 and 24. I suspect most will want some time to consider final options with pricing before converting to “finalized orders.”

What are you looking for specifically?
Pricing is available unless you’re referencing the lease ‘thing’?
I’m guessing by option you mean something other than trim levels?

 

[timbop]

I would hope that option and pricing information will come out before June 22 and 24. I suspect most will want some time to consider final options with pricing before converting to “finalized orders.”

EXACTLY. For the premiums and FE there probably won't be many options since they've put everything in them already, but the Route 1 and Select are a different matter. When they "open up ordering" does that coincide with updating the website like all their other cars, allowing us to compare options and more importantly find out the leasing rates? I am heavily leaning on Edmunds' advice to lease, anticipating that by 2025 the newer battery chemistries will be available.

The real question, is why wait until ordering is open to give all that information out on their website? Why not start releasing it so when ordering opens people can make a fully informed decision?

 

[hybrid2bev]

What are you looking for specifically?
Pricing is available unless you’re referencing the lease ‘thing’?
I’m guessing by option you mean something other than trim levels?

The MSRP prices out there now are estimates.

The Ford Options guidebook for the retail balloon note program should be published to the dealers next week, though the actual residuals and rates won’t be published until closer to delivery.

 

[Redundant]

EXACTLY. For the premiums and FE there probably won't be many options since they've put everything in them already, but the Route 1 and Select are a different matter. When they "open up ordering" does that coincide with updating the website like all their other cars, allowing us to compare options and more importantly find out the leasing rates? I am heavily leaning on Edmunds' advice to lease, anticipating that by 2025 the newer battery chemistries will be available.

The real question, is why wait until ordering is open to give all that information out on their website? Why not start releasing it so when ordering opens people can make a fully informed decision?

And further, what are the options and costs on the GT? I am pretty set on what I want to keep me under the NJ max $55K, but I still think about the GT as a crazy possibility. However, I need to know what it really costs all in. And yes, I would lease, if they provide a yearly milages higher than typical ICE leases.

 

[timbop]

What are you looking for specifically?
Pricing is available unless you’re referencing the lease ‘thing’?
I’m guessing by option you mean something other than trim levels?

YES. The Select is rumored to have multiple options packages that include heated seats, 19" wheels,, 360 camera, etc. The GT and Route 1 also are marked as having options on the web site, the GT stated as having a "performance" package. Again, what are the details and how much are those?

 

[timbop]

The MSRP prices out there now are estimates.

The Ford Options guidebook for the retail balloon note program should be published to the dealers next week, though the actual residuals and rates won’t be published until closer to delivery.

So they aren't going to publish the lease rates or other details until the fall?

 

[hybrid2bev]

So they aren't going to publish the lease rates or other details until the fall?

Remember Ford Options is not a traditional lease. But yes, I think estimates will be given now to give an estimated payment.

Vehicle programs change from month to month and there are many factors that can change between now and the vehicle launch that affect residual values. So publishing ‘final’ residuals and rates 5-6 months before delivery won’t happen.

Ford Options explanation can be found here:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/lease-program-details-for-mach-e-leasing.130/post-2302

 

[timbop]

Remember Ford Options is not a traditional lease. But yes, I think estimates will be given now to give an estimated payment.

Vehicle programs change from month to month and there are many factors that can change between now and the vehicle launch that affect residual values. So publishing ‘final’ residuals and rates 5-6 months before delivery won’t happen.

Ford Options explanation can be found here:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/lease-program-details-for-mach-e-leasing.130/post-2302

Oh, I remember. I need at least an estimate of what it's going to cost me so I place an order for something I am comfortable with. Plus or minus a fudge factor is OK, but as you said in that thread you don't have any idea what the residual will be, and there's a big difference between a 30% residual and a 35% or 38% one. It would certainly be the difference between me splurging on what I want (AWD with memory seats) versus base RWD. In the absence of any data I'll simply order the base without memory seats and strongly consider a model 3 instead when it comes time to finalize the order in the fall.

 

[Redundant]

Oh, I remember. I need at least an estimate of what it's going to cost me so I place an order for something I am comfortable with. Plus or minus a fudge factor is OK, but as you said in that thread you don't have any idea what the residual will be, and there's a big difference between a 30% residual and a 35% or 38% one. It would certainly be the difference between me splurging on what I want (AWD with memory seats) versus base RWD. In the absence of any data I'll simply order the base without memory seats and strongly consider a model 3 instead when it comes time to finalize the order in the fall.

Also, are they going to increase the milage per year? An EV does not age the way an ICE does, and it shouldn't be limited to the low per year milage of an ICE.

 

[hybrid2bev]

Also, are they going to increase the milage per year? An EV does not age the way an ICE does, and it shouldn't be limited to the low per year milage of an ICE.

From the draft I've seen of the new Ford Options guide the mileage options should line up with what is available on a traditional Ford lease 7,500 to 19,500 per year. You could also buy more miles upfront if you wanted to.

 

[dbsb3233]

After reading that, I'm just as confused about the timing as ever. Maybe more. ?

 

[eager2own]

What are you looking for specifically?
Pricing is available unless you’re referencing the lease ‘thing’?
I’m guessing by option you mean something other than trim levels?

Others have already answered this for me but, yes, I'm not just interested in the base price per trim model. I'd like to know how a Premium compares with a GT when I add the equipment that the Premium includes standard but is only optional on the GT (for example, the glass roof). How else do I determine if I want to order the Premium June 22 vs. wait for the GT?

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