GM reportedly cancelling Ultra-Cruise development

[LincolnLuvr]

Guess we're not getting a Level 3 system from mainstream domestic auto manufacturers anytime soon.

The turmoil at Cruise also calls into question GM’s own plans to offer personal autonomous vehicles by as early as mid-decade, as well as the company’s next-generation driver-assistance system Ultra Cruise.

The Ultra Cruise system was initially planned to debut in 2023 and eventually be capable of driving itself in 95% of scenarios, but progress has been unclear.

Two sources familiar with the system told CNBC that the automaker is ending the Ultra Cruise program. One source said GM has decided to instead focus on the current Super Cruise system and expanding its capabilities rather than having two different, similarly named systems.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/15/for-10-year-gm-ceo-mary-barra-2024-is-about-change-and-crisis.html

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[ChasingCoral]

Smart move on GM's part.

 

[LincolnLuvr]

Both BMW and Mercedes are working on Level 3 systems. I wonder if SuperCruise can support Level 3?

 

[Jimrpa]

Hmmm… Elon has always claimed he would make his technology available, “royalty-free” to anyone who wants it. What if he negotiated a deal to sell the software (and subscriptions) to Chevy owners in the future (and GM configures the cars with the appropriate hardware)?

 

[Blue highway]

Hmmm… Elon has always claimed he would make his technology available, “royalty-free” to anyone who wants it. What if he negotiated a deal to sell the software (and subscriptions) to Chevy owners in the future (and GM configures the cars with the appropriate hardware)?

FSD is $12k for each Tesla customer that wants to use it ... makes "royalty free" to other car companies seem unlikely to me.

 

[Logal727]

FSD won’t be feasible on a large scale until every vehicle has it

 

[Jimrpa]

I wasn’t commenting on the feasibility of FSD, just thinking it might be a cheap shortcut for GM

 

[AZBill]

I have SuperCruise, it is still Level 2, you have to be alert. Definitely ahead of BC on mapped roads, but drops steering on unmapped roads.

I have been waiting to get BC 1.4, to see how close it gets to the GM system.

Some highlights:

- Fully automatic lane changes
- Adjust speeds for curves ahead of curve entry
- Hands free on most interchanges
- Hands free trailer towing

 

[ChasingCoral]

I have SuperCruise, it is still Level 2, you have to be alert. Definitely ahead of BC on mapped roads, but drops steering on unmapped roads.

I have been waiting to get BC 1.4, to see how close it gets to the GM system.

Some highlights:

- Fully automatic lane changes
- Adjust speeds for curves ahead of curve entry
- Hands free on most interchanges
- Hands free trailer towing

The new versions of BC definitely do the first two but not the second (yet).
I really wish Ford would add Hands-Free Trailer Towing for my Lightning. We have a MD to TX and back trailer trip coming up soon.

 

[kennelh]

I have SuperCruise, it is still Level 2, you have to be alert. Definitely ahead of BC on mapped roads, but drops steering on unmapped roads.

I have been waiting to get BC 1.4, to see how close it gets to the GM system.

Some highlights:

- Fully automatic lane changes
- Adjust speeds for curves ahead of curve entry
- Hands free on most interchanges
- Hands free trailer towing

So I noticed a GM SuperCrrise this weekend showing it operating on two-lane non-divided highways, which BC can't do. Is that an accurate depiction?

 

[AZBill]

So I noticed a GM SuperCrrise this weekend showing it operating on two-lane non-divided highways, which BC can't do. Is that an accurate depiction?

Yes the number of mapped roads is far greater than BC and includes two lane highways.

 

[kennelh]

Yes the number of mapped roads is far greater than BC and includes two lane highways.

I don't believe it's just that. I was on a Ford last week that was a mixture of freeway and non-freeway (four lane divided, but parts with cross traffic) and BC would only work on the non cross traffic parts. So Ford was chosen to not activate it specifically in that situation when they could have mapped the road

 

[CommittotheIndian]

The new versions of BC definitely do the first two but not the second (yet).
I really wish Ford would add Hands-Free Trailer Towing for my Lightning. We have a MD to TX and back trailer trip coming up soon.

Are you saying BC 1.4 can change lanes when it feels it's needed? I was under the impression, triggering a turn signal would change lanes but it still required my input.

 

[Electric Goat]

Good. I have zero interest in buying an autonomous car. That's what uber, lyft and taxi services are for. If a car is going to drive itself then I don't want it parking in my garage. It should go park itself in a warehouse offsite somewhere.

GTFO out of my sight when I'm done using you strictly for my transportation pleasure. You don't deserve to live with me.

 

[Blue highway]

The new versions of BC definitely do the first two but not the second (yet).
I really wish Ford would add Hands-Free Trailer Towing for my Lightning. We have a MD to TX and back trailer trip coming up soon.

BTW - any insights as to when the BC updates will begin again... The flurry at the end of the year has stopped and nothing now for nearly a month.

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